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Adeeyos 10-03-2020 10:29 AM

PowerStop Rotors and Pads Installed
 
I couldn't handle the excessive brake dust from the stock Brembo pads and longer, so last week I changed out the rotors and pads with the PowerStop Extreme drilled and slotted rotors and ceramic pads.

The reviews for these were mixed with some complaining of squealing after making the change, but I decided to go for it anyways and I am glad I did.

Dealing with the caliper bolts (loosening and re-tightening) was really the toughest part of the project. I watched a few videos, so once I had the caliper bolts loose, it was smooth sailing and quick from there, until it came time to torque to spec the new caliper bolts. 30lbs and 90 degrees doesn't sound like any big deal, but getting that 90 degrees was tough and a bit nerve racking cause I was worried that I was going to snap one of those suckers off having to put that much pressure on them. Luckily I didn't snap any off.

Due to the complaints of squeaking, I decided to bed them in real good by doubled up one the bedding in procedure. That of course created a lot of break dust, which continued for about another 200 miles after they were bedded in. Three days later, I got in some spirited driving and was happy to see very little brake dust. I'd say the claim of a 95% reduction was spot on.

A couple of other thoughts.

1. If you are just going to replace your pads with these, instead of replacing both the pads and the rotor at the same time, make sure to get your existing rotors turned. Not having your existing rotors turned will most likely result in the brakes squealing.
2. Be very calculated about when and where you do the bedding in. Make sure you plan on a road close by and at a time when it will not have any other traffic on it so that you can perform the break in procedure to a tee.
3. When bedding the brakes in, consider doing double what is specified. Instead of 5 aggressive stops from 40-10, I did 5 with a short pause (traveled maybe a 16th to 8th of a mile) and then did 5 more. Did the same thing when it came to the 5 moderate braking portion, and then just drove slowly at about 40 mph with virtually no braking for a half hour to let them cool down.

tmaleck 10-06-2020 03:55 PM

I went with EBC pads and rotors. I also hated the brembo dust and squeal. Worked out great, no dust or squeal and decided better braking.

ADVMax 10-09-2020 03:51 PM

+1 on the Powerstops! I have the Z26 Extreme drilled and slotted rotors and carbon ceramic pads. So far they have been great!


I swear you can sling the bugs off the front bumper before the ABS kicks in!



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Quicksilver2SS 11-01-2020 10:03 PM

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Just installed Powerstop Z26 pads today, reused rotors that have only 29k miles, just scuffed em up. It stops no different than the Brembo pads from what I can tell, also did the proper bedding procedure. Looking foreword to close to dust free pads and wheels that stay clean. I used 2 tubes of this for the back of the pads.

lkurek 11-02-2020 09:52 AM

I hope you replaced the caliper bolts, as they are a torque to yield variety....one use and done.

Quicksilver2SS 11-02-2020 02:25 PM

The pads pop out without the need for caliper removal, yes next time when I change rotors and pads, caliper bolts need to be replaced.

morepowerjoe 12-18-2020 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Quicksilver2SS (Post 10896385)
The pads pop out without the need for caliper removal, yes next time when I change rotors and pads, caliper bolts need to be replaced.

I'm curious as to why you guys are talking about changing the caliper bolts?

Trawz 12-18-2020 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by morepowerjoe (Post 10921130)
I'm curious as to why you guys are talking about changing the caliper bolts?

Because the bolts that hold on the calipers are "torque to yield" bolts.
When fully torqued to spec, they stretch/deform and stay like that when removed to change out a rotor.

Ideally, you are supposed to replace them with fresh bolts and red Loctite when removed.
Others here have reused bolts with no problems, but they are considered a "one and done" item due to the risk of over stretching/snapping them on reuse.

Bigdumogre 12-18-2020 11:29 AM

Was about to order these pads and rotors since the price is so good. $450 from Amazon for all 4 wheels.
The caliper bolts are always advised to change but working on cars for over 10 years I have never replaced them and they have always been fine. No one in the dealership ever changed them on any car. Head bolts are totally different but there is nothing wrong to replacing them if you want.

Bigdumogre 12-18-2020 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Quicksilver2SS (Post 10895972)
Just installed Powerstop Z26 pads today, reused rotors that have only 29k miles, just scuffed em up. It stops no different than the Brembo pads from what I can tell, also did the proper bedding procedure. Looking foreword to close to dust free pads and wheels that stay clean. I used 2 tubes of this for the back of the pads.

Instead in the back of the pads I would just put some on the side of the pads where they touch the caliper bracket. There is no need to cover the whole backs of them with it.
The reason for that is that the pads slide on the sides in the caliper bracket and all the excess that ups put on the back will just attract dust and debris. Maybe there are other reasons to put it on the back but I’ve never have.

morepowerjoe 12-18-2020 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Trawz (Post 10921138)
Because the bolts that hold on the calipers are "torque to yield" bolts.
When fully torqued to spec, they stretch/deform and stay like that when removed to change out a rotor.

Ideally, you are supposed to replace them with fresh bolts and red Loctite when removed.
Others here have reused bolts with no problems, but they are considered a "one and done" item due to the risk of over stretching/snapping them on reuse.

Are you referring to the brembo calipers or the v6 model calipers?

Trawz 12-18-2020 03:42 PM

I do not know for certain but I do believe that both the SS and the V6 caliper bolts are Torque-to-Yield bolts.

I do know that the Brembo caliper bolts are.

gtstorey 12-18-2020 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Trawz (Post 10921266)
I do not know for certain but I do believe that both the SS and the V6 caliper bolts are Torque-to-Yield bolts.

I do know that the Brembo caliper bolts are.

I debate this every few months. Torque + angle is not necessarily torque to yield. The manual does call for them to be replaced, but that may be because of the oem applied loc-tite. A lot of us that pull them apart fairly often just re-use them.


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