Camaro Disciple looking for input
 

The Camaro Disciples will be meeting in a few weeks & I would like your input.

I do NOT want any OLD complaints. The Camaro Team are well aware of problems & take your complaints very seriously.

I am looking for your wishes, dreams and any changes you would like. Remember that most changes come with trade offs, $ cost or weight. What would you like me to present to the Camaro Team?

Janet

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A street-legal version of the COPO!!! That's what I would like to see! The original COPO's were street-legal, why not this one? Who the heck can afford to buy a track only car?!?!?

An aftermarket supercharger that doesn't void the warranty...

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Also, they should adapt the look of MPD1 rear exhaust panel, really makes the car look like it should.......... JMHO............. JRJ :thumbsup:

Old school cragar wheels...

Is this an ask of how to improve the Camaro for future production?

More affordably priced wheel options. 5K for the 21"s is a bit much.

1) Get rid of that horrible mail slot on the SS model.
2) Make badging improvements. The current ones are horrible. Look at the gen 1 Camaros for design cues.

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Old style gills behind the front wheels like on 60's vettes!

Sun visors that block the sun, front and full length side. Should slide out and extend full length of the side window. Just like an Equinox or C/K.

Harmon Kardon or similar top quality sound system.

V8 auto trans with no AFM.

Keep the retro theme going, make it even more like a '69 Z28.... hideaway headlights, hounds tooth,

A little smaller, a little lighter.... but a hair more side window height, less roof chop. This will make using an ATM possible, and still look like a '69 Z.

Factory tint on the rear windows.

A couple real sweet blues like IBM and ABM.

Fascia suppliers that can match the front fascia to body color perfectly or have the plant paint the whole car. 2 cars in row for me, front fascias not even close to matching the body color. Yes, an old issue, but unless addressed will be a new issue.

Dirt nib free paint.

Mail slot delete for SS.hash mark stripe option.

The SS Camaros should come with a "sport suspension" option that includes solid subframe bushings, a lower stance (drop springs), beefier sway bars, and stronger trailing arms.

It should be possible to turn off AFM on the automatic cars and skip shift on the manual cars.

Nav system option.

All my thoughts and additions are old or listed above...

but.. I will reiterate this one..

Lighter, lighter, lighter, lighter......... please... make it lighter...

oh.. and... ditch the 20s for something more useful.. maybe 18s that don't look out of place.

T2-T3 ports should be standard. Make a deal with alpine to offer their nav as a factory upgrade. Same suspension should be on all models. I'm calling for the FE4 suspension across all models. It would be nice to see a bare bones SS made strictly in the name of weight loss and performance.

Lighter is going to be off the table until the 6th generation / Alpha.

I like the comments above about full length sunvisor, factory rear tinted windows... those are things that are easy and cost effective. More improvements to the DIC - theoretically if the DIC is tied into the same electrical system as all the sensors, with the right programming it could display all the items to make it compete with that news a little while back about the Ford Mustang being able to see a ton of diagnostic info in its DIC.

For the love of god, though, do not make the T2-T3 standard as said above... :yuck:

I'm not expecting that this gathering is for any serious changes to the 5th gen.

Touche - now would be good time for alpha discussions.

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Option to have the LS3 on the automatics.

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Sport seats. Like a recaro option.

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A sweet candy apple red 50th anniv edition. Similar to the Vette's 50th.

A real navigation system & improved infotainment center (ala Metra).

Cadillac User Experience integrated into the Camaro.

Yes, that is part of what we do.

Janet

Why don't we ahve a V6 performance package similar to the "Mayhem" performance package for the V6 Mustang? Their package includes:


In my Camaro V6 performance package, I personally start with:

1. Better brake calipers and disks. The SS Brakes look so much better. They don't need to be as big, but they don't need to look like they are from a Civic either.
2. A 3.55 or 3.73 gear available for our V6? V6 guys like performance too. If our SS brothers can beat GTs, shouldn't we be able to beat a Mustang v6?
3. A 19" wheel/tire combo that provides the grip of the 20" and looks better that the stock 19" wheels.

Thank you for your interest Janet.

You already made my wishes and dreams come true when you decided to build the ZL1.

Thanks!

If they did come out with the 1LE package for v6 and v8, that would cover it. Just a thought.

It's pretty much a given that a Blue color has to surface again...

Jetstream Blue gets my vote..

and the OPTION to add Navigation like the Vette's

1LE package that can be installed on previous Camaros (2010-2012). I'd buy that in a heartbeat! Maybe a way to change the interior lighting color (HUD, Radio, Guages, Screens, Door Light Tubes), similar to what they had in previous mustangs (not sure if they had that option on the american version). If these are old subjects, then please disreguard:D

NAVIGATION! I don't like OnStar directions!!

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Janet, thanks for seeking input!! This is a prime example of why I'm very proud to be a Camaro enthusiast.

They can do whatever they want, as far as I'm concerned as long as it stays a CAMARO in spirit. The micro-managing of how they get there is up to the designers and engineers. :)

I'm humbled to provide my wishes, however:

In terms of design -- the 5th gen rolls around with one of the strongest presences on the road, easy. Please don't lose that!! Compromises that some people complain about like the rear-visibility or the "tank-like" windows....these are the things that make the car GREAT, imo. They remind you of the kind of car you're driving...it's not a boring A-B mobile. And frankly....it's not suffering in sales much, now is it? So these characteristics are things worth keeping, imo.

I love the deep shoulders out back, the quad taillights, halo headlights, and bold fascia, too. (No other car save Aston Martin has rear body panels like that. So striking!!)

Mechanicals? It's a Camaro -- so I'd like to see the team do what they can to keep the V8 as affordable as possible...however, I'd also like to see them try and appeal to a wider audience with a T4 base engine, or what have you.

Chevy revealed a 2+2 compact RWD coupe at 2012 NAIAS; Code 130R. I think team Camaro can cater the base model Camaro to appeal to the niche market that concept car would appeal to. Thus strengthening the Camaro's viability within the brand. :)

That said...Let's keep the mid and high-performing models alive and well. Supercar performance on a budget. ;)

Thanks again, Janet -- and ALL the disciples!! :clap:

Vette Nav is a real pleaser......even a central command touch screen for the basic functions similar to whats offered after market now by Metra and others.

A new Blue (Lemans Blue or Marina Bay Blue), a retro GOLD or Champagne, and some more wheel options.

Some interior color options...like White or Tan (full Tan not combined with black) or Blue!

LS3 on the auto with Corvette/ ZL-1 variable exhaust.

Thanks everyone, great input. I've noted everything & will present to the Camaro Team. They never stop improving the Camaro and always want your input. I'll continue to add from this thread.

Janet

OK - just between us 'camaro comrades' -


Here's a picture of me with a BRAND NEW Z28 - first year of the Generation..........



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30 years ago.....

..........and 95 less pounds ago.........


...............and a whole lot more hair ago........



My second "CTF" of the 3rd Generation.....

Thank YOU all for actually taking the time to hear our wants and wishes...
Its why I continue to buy Chevys...especially CAMAROS!

OMG F-Bod...we could have been twins LOL!!

If there was one thing, it would be more interior color choices like all red or all white. Not just accents of color but the entire interior like the good old days. Black, Grey and Tan is getting old.

All - Miss Janet is one of our "12 Disciples of which there are 15" -- she's our "Voice of Corvette" - but has a brand new ZL1 sitting at Oshawa -

The intent of having Disciples is to gather information from the enthusiast community. Each Disciple is known within the community - either as a Webmaster, a Moderator, a Club officer, etc. They're 'out and about' and this is one reason they were selected.

8 men, 7 women -

From around the U.S. and Canada -

All generations of Camaro represented

Firebirds represented

All age groups


-- and I could not be prouder of our Disciples - they are extremely dedicated and represent you very well.