G8 GXP FASTER THAN CAMARO SS?
 

i have noticed that the pontiac g8 has a better 0-60 than the camaro. Best g8 time i've seen is 4.5 and 4.6 for the Camaro, but they are tied in the quarter at 13 flat.


i'm a bit dissapointed because i thought the higher ponies and lighter weight in the camaro would overcome the better gearing in the g8. Anyone know if chevy will offer equal or better gearing in the camaro?

There will eventually be 3.73 rear end available just not yet. That will make the difference. Were the Camaro will beat the G8 as is right now is handling.

3:73 gears will be available next year. But wait a few months and you'll see people breaking into 12's, don't worry.

True but that goes for both cars.

GXP already has a 3.70 rear end. The Camaro, with revised gearing will be faster, and it's much cheaper. I do like both cars though, the GXP as part of the GM family is still a great car, but Camaro will prove to be faster in real world and the track. :chevy:

I don't have any stats in front of me, but doesn't the Camaro have a significantly higher trap speed through the quarter?

I'm pretty sure the G8 GXP isn't trapping 111-112 mph, and believe it or not a couple of mph difference in trap speed is significant.

From some of G8 GXP dynos out there .. I think that engine is underrated anyways .. I believe it is making as much power as the LS3 Camaro ..

Crowley

Dissappointed? Wow. Those 0-60's you quoted, were they from the very 1st reviews of the GXP or later reviews, or actual times outside of the reiviews? I would venture to say that the Camaros numbers will improve. That being said, I think the Camaros numbers are just fine. IMVHO

I think he meant he's disappointed that comparably to the G8 GXP he's disappointed not in general! The g8 GXP is one badass car if you need the roominess and want a camaro go for it!!

:word: If I had kids, I'd be in a G8GXP in a heartbeat.

I don't have kids and the temptation has been there, especially with the 3000 cash back and special financing it tempts you every time you see it

Sometimes i feel that the 2011 Camaro is gonna be alot better then the 2010... :cry:

yea I have that feeling too thank God I'm waiting hehehehehe

The times your seeing for the Camaro were done in 34 degree weather. Not good for traction. The times will get better.

i have a hard time believing that the g8 will be faster than the camaro or even close to it. it would be like if they made the camaro better than the vette , not going to happen

The G8 GXP only gets 20mpg highway and is rewarded with a GG tax for it. Yeah, there's a rebate, but who is to say the Camaro won't get a rebate in a year. I'll take the Camaro with its 24 or 25mpg with almost exact performance. As you add power whether through bolt on or forced inductions, those 3.73 gears might give you trouble off the line in the form of tire smoke. ;)


I should mention that I really like the GXP, just too much money and I wanted better gas mileage.

IMO, that GXP is friggin' cool! If there were no Camaro, that'd the the first car in line for me to get (well, a CTS-V; but that's too much $$$). I'm sure Camaro times will be dropping a tenth or two when the rags' start reviewing in weather with a little better traction because although the cold is good for power, it ain't good for hookin'. I think the power and weight differences aren't going to mean too much in terms of raw speed, but the handling is where the spread is going to be a little greater.

Either way, Camaro is based on the same chassis, has similar engine/drivetrains, and weight and harbor no disappointment at all. They're great improvements on top of the older generation cars, IMVHO.

What I'm wondering is if I can take it up to the shop and "under warranty" swap the gearing on the rear end in '11 for a factory 3.73. It should just be a matter of pulling one transfer case and plugging the new one in.

I think GM should try something like this too. Do a "Factory recall" on the 3:42s they have now as a "production error" and make all the '10s eat some '11 Mustangs like their younger Camaro brethren will be doing.

It's my opinion that won't be possible... They'd replace a warranty part with the exact same replacement, unless it was discontinued. Broken 3.42s equal replacement 3.42s. That would be cool though :D

Car and Driver reported 0-60 in 4.7 sec for the G8 GXP.

That's the exact same as reported for the Camaro in many reviews.

Same exact engine - same exact platform - the numbers are almost exactly the same.

(I realize weight is diff but so is gearing)...

To me it's a wash!!

Oh and the Camaro LOOKS about a BILLION times better than any G8 ever could...

Exactly. And did I mention the Camaro looks about a billion times better? :)

Sorry I honestly just don't like the G8... I don't like how it looks.. :thumbdown:

And don't forget the GXP is MORE money than the Camaro....although slightly more.

i'm not dissapointed with the camaro's numbers at all, i'm just a little bothered that the GXP guys are faster. but it's still a drivers race and i'm sure a few bolt ons can fix this.



i'm happy that i'm waiting until 2011. we not only get more color options, ABL, and better pricing, but we might get a faster SS. :D

I don't care if it was a purple pig that tapdances. G8 is a luxury 4 door sedan.

If you want a 4 Door Sedan be my guest..

Otherwise Enjoy Camaro.. have a coke and a smile...

G8 is not really a luxury 4 door. That's the CTSV.

GXP for the wife Camaro for me. Perfect combo.

I was looking at the G8 V8 for my next car - until I found out they were coming out with the Camaro!!! :happyanim:

WEll here's something else to think about; The Cobalt ss has a faster top speed then the Camaro.:bonk: 160mph

Man that LS3 sings. Here's one with ARH longtubes, stock axlebacks, stock tune. Man love that 6 speed. Turn it up!!!


Looks like I need a maggie! :)

WTF? How? THe gearing must be way shorter and lower final drive on cobalt. Is it just bc governer on ss? I know someone with an ls2 gto that hit 165 on before easily.

Also.. why would they put a crappy ratio on camaro ss this year and put better 3.73 on it next year? whats that even mean though? is that its final drive?

Yes, the SS's top speed will be electronically limited. With tuning (to remove the limiter) the SS should top out somewhere over 170mph.

Stock (yet tuned to remove the limiter) LS2 GTO's have been known to hit speeds over 170mph.

I know my stock 05 M6 GTO could hit 155-160mph like it was nothing.

I know the Camaro is electronically limited to 155mph. Maybe GM was worried about mpg, so they went with taller gears. But why the change to 3.73, maybe they found that it would'nt change the mpg all that much, or the trans gears are going to change as well.

same, my friend could be driving like 80 one minute, then(on an empty road) floor it fourth, and seemingly a few seconds later you'd already be going well over 150 easily. Then you could slow back down momentarily like it was nothing and do it all again if you want. That is a fast ****in car. I can't believe the stock camaro will be even faster. I can't wait to get mine and put a hot cam on it!!!

Hahahah. Amen Vash.

Lol yeah. Dont worry so much about the G8. Who gives? Its a pontiac, you wont see too many. Stick to schooling stangs and challengers for the moment

Check the Camaro's curb weight and the Zeta platform it's rolling on.

The Camaro IS a 4 door sedan......
it just had 2 of it's doors removed.

PLEASE SAY IT'S NOT SO GUYS!? that just wouldnt seem far to the enthusiasts...

eh, speed is all relative. I thought the GTO was a good base to start off with, but not FAST. Don't get me wrong, I don't think my car is fast either, it's not even a car/power range to aim for. I think fast STARTS in the 550-600 rwhp range +, and that's just the BEGINNING.

Then again, that's just my opinion.

in what way?

wtf?




so those snot nosed teenagers in the new cobalt SS will be able to go faster than me?




this is unfair

You do know that a an LT will go 155mph too right? You'll get there faster than either it or the cobalt, but they'll all go that fast.