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n201mw 01-14-2014 02:18 PM

Borla Catback exhaust questions
 
Hey all,

I was looking to upgrade the sound of my exhaust and I was liking the Borla sound. I was curious if anyone had heard the S-type and the Atak side by side. I want louder but not annoying. Any thoughts between the two? I haven't done anything with my headers yet and probably wont for another year or so.
Thanks!

ModBargains.com 01-14-2014 02:22 PM

Best bet is to listen to this video, Borla goes through the touring, s-type, and atak models in cabin and outside to test the sound levels. Preferably for me at least, S-type is where it's at, but take a listen and let me know if I can help out any further :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3dTdAyoZkI

n201mw 01-14-2014 04:14 PM

I did look at those and they had me leaning towards the S-type as well. It's just hard to tell on crappy laptop speakers. Haha!

ModBargains.com 01-14-2014 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by n201mw (Post 7336984)
I did look at those and they had me leaning towards the S-type as well. It's just hard to tell on crappy laptop speakers. Haha!

I had that problem too with these speakers, but I plugged my laptop into my home theater system at home, and pissed off some neighbors for a bit, it sounds THAT good.

sac130e 01-14-2014 06:57 PM

Liking the Borla S-Type sound. I have a 2014 SS/RS and looking at that system, but just want to go as far as getting the sound and alittle bit more hp without tuning. Wat is needed and where ould I look to buy.

Thx

Sapper12b 01-14-2014 07:02 PM

I was in the same position as the OP and went with the Borla S-type. Barely noticeable inside the cabin, great sound from the outside but it does have some drone. Borla is unfortunately known to have some drown, I experience it between 1700 -2000 rpms through most of my shifts.

blake2010ss 01-14-2014 09:04 PM

Ive had both. The atak sounded great without headers... but was a bit much to me with. I love my S-type with the headers, best sounding exhaust with headers IMO.

sac130e 01-14-2014 09:22 PM

Still looking for advise on the S-Type and where to purchase and exactly which set-up to avoid any type of tuning at this time. Will look into headers after warranty runs down, just want the sound now...thx.

blake2010ss 01-14-2014 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by sac130e (Post 7337838)
Still looking for advise on the S-Type and where to purchase and exactly which set-up to avoid any type of tuning at this time. Will look into headers after warranty runs down, just want the sound now...thx.

Cat back systems alone require no tunes regardless to which system you do.

sac130e 01-14-2014 10:20 PM

Thx for the info, now finding best online vendor to purchase from.

blake2010ss 01-14-2014 10:39 PM

I got mine from Maryland speed.

sac130e 01-14-2014 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by blake2010ss (Post 7338050)
I got mine from Maryland speed.

This what I found on that website...would this be what I am looking for?
Borla S-type (Stinger) Catback Exhaust w/ X-pipe - 2014+ Camaro SS

JonesSS 01-15-2014 02:07 AM

X2 on Maryland speed. They had the best price when I was researching the atak..

n201mw 01-15-2014 08:51 AM

Thanks guys. Anyone think I can get GM to pick up part of the cost? I brought my car in before I put it away for the winter because of a rattle in the exhaust and the dealership said they had to replace the exhaust from the cat back and that GM would pay part of the cost for the OEM parts under the GMPP or whatever it was.

blake2010ss 01-15-2014 09:42 AM

I had the same issue. All they were gonna do was keep replacing the stock muffler. Decided shortly after my 2nd set of mufflers messed up that i was gonna try the atak.

The orange one 01-15-2014 10:13 AM

Out all the exhausts I heard so far and online the Borla S type imo sounds the best.Hopefully with just the axelback some of the drone will be lower.

NOLA_1LE 01-15-2014 01:19 PM

I have Borla LT's and Atak absolutly love it it is very loud though. I ran the Atak w/ the factory manifolds for a few months and it sounded great as well. If your trying to be a little more suddle I would go with the S-Type IMO

sac130e 01-15-2014 01:58 PM

Aside from price, what the advantage/disadvantages of the axle back over the cat back?

ModBargains.com 01-15-2014 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sac130e (Post 7339463)
Aside from price, what the advantage/disadvantages of the axle back over the cat back?

I like having a direct connect, meaning if I'm replacing the exhaust I want the entirety of the factory exhaust gone, so Long tubes with an x-pipe that then bolts onto the catback. If it's an axle back, you've still got old piping from the previous exhaust. Not necessarily bad, but it helps with overall flow. Most of the mid pipes on MOST cars are crushed piping which restricts flow because it bottlenecks at the area of the crush. Another benefit is if resonators come into play. Resonators don't flow very well. They're not as bad as catalytic converters, but they still bottleneck exhaust flow. A lot of aftermarket exhausts don't have crushed pipes or resonators like the one pictured below is a good example of a crush pipe ON a resonator, so just imagine how terrible that is (you guys get to laugh since it's on a mustang. poor guys):

http://image.mustang50magazine.com/f...resonator.jpg.

Hope that helps!

sac130e 01-15-2014 02:39 PM

So the ...Borla S-type (Stinger) Catback Exhaust w/ X-pipe would be the best way to go and not have to do any tuning then?

sac130e 01-15-2014 03:24 PM

Looking to order the Borla S-Type part#140530 from MarylandSpeed..can any one confirm if they come with the tips from this website?

ModBargains.com 01-15-2014 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sac130e (Post 7339576)
So the ...Borla S-type (Stinger) Catback Exhaust w/ X-pipe would be the best way to go and not have to do any tuning then?

Yeah, you can hold off on the tuning until you get long tubes if you ask me, it's not really needed right off the bat with a catback.

sac130e 01-15-2014 03:48 PM

what are long tubes? noob here

ModBargains.com 01-15-2014 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sac130e (Post 7339766)
what are long tubes? noob here

I'm stealing someones picture off google, so I apologize if it's someones picture here that didn't want me to use it. Anyway, you can see with the picture below the factory exhaust, and a set of ARH Long tubes:

http://www.planetlsx.com/images/arti...humbs/98-1.jpg

The exhaust flows so much easier though the header you see on the bottom, you can just see how many sharp angles are in the factory manifold, along with the catalytic converters in there which really slow things down.

sac130e 01-15-2014 03:54 PM

So the catbak connects to the headers then.
So until I get new headers (voiding any warranty), I wont need to tune anything till then.
Will installing the catbak without a tune have any long term effect, or things will work fine?

Thx

ModBargains.com 01-15-2014 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by sac130e (Post 7339789)
So the catbak connects to the headers then.
So until I get new headers (voiding any warranty), I wont need to tune anything till then.
Will installing the catbak without a tune have any long term effect, or things will work fine?

Thx

If you get a set of long tubes like the ones below made by Stainless Works, then you can get a catback system on top of that and have it match up, yes. And just FYI, just because you install a part, doesn't mean it voids the warranty right away, so it's not an instant thing, you'll still be able to go into the dealer and get any maintenance done that's still covered under warranty.

Catback without a tune is fine, I would run it on my personal car without worrying about it.

sac130e 01-15-2014 04:00 PM

Well, ordered the Borla, now I just have to find a shop in my area that can install these when they show up. States 2 weeks before shipping, since new product...the wait begins...:)

sac130e 01-15-2014 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ModBargains.com (Post 7339805)
If you get a set of long tubes like the ones below made by Stainless Works, then you can get a catback system on top of that and have it match up, yes. And just FYI, just because you install a part, doesn't mean it voids the warranty right away, so it's not an instant thing, you'll still be able to go into the dealer and get any maintenance done that's still covered under warranty.

Catback without a tune is fine, I would run it on my personal car without worrying about it.

Thx for the info and help

sac130e 01-15-2014 10:22 PM

Another question if I may about these pipes.
Heard some talk about 'drone' issues, will I have this issue also?

blake2010ss 01-15-2014 10:34 PM

There could be a little but it shouldn't be anything bad.

sac130e 01-16-2014 02:48 PM

Is there anything else needed to do this install..like seals or whatever?
Or is it ready to install right out of the box?

snizzle 01-16-2014 08:04 PM

Loved ATAK without headers. Love it with headers.

Snidely Whiplash 01-26-2014 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ModBargains.com (Post 7337003)
I had that problem too with these speakers, but I plugged my laptop into my home theater system at home, and pissed off some neighbors for a bit, it sounds THAT good.

My home theater setup is completely separate from my home stereo in a separate room (the kids are not allowed in there). I ran it through the home stereo system (tube pre-amp-monoblock tube amps) which requires NO subwoofer. The vintage Altec Lansing Voice of the Theater speakers made it sound like Green Valley Raceway (RIP) was open again.:biggrin:

I'm busy getting broken glass picked up as 3 pictures fell off the wall.

tarik1985 01-27-2014 05:28 PM

2 weeks to ship wow.. I ordered my borla Atak from amazon last Monday and got it on Wednesday.2 days free shipping with prime :). I installed it last friday and I'm loving it :). It took 45 min to install at my local muffler shop and they charged me $60.

Jpb972 01-27-2014 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blake2010ss (Post 7337759)
Ive had both. The atak sounded great without headers... but was a bit much to me with. I love my S-type with the headers, best sounding exhaust with headers IMO.

+1

tarik1985 01-27-2014 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jpb972 (Post 7372932)
+1

I don't understand why a lot of people say that the Borla Atak cutback is too loud or too much for them , I just installed the cutback last week and it sounds just a little bit deeper than stock at idle and it's not that noticeable or annoying until you step on the gas and hit 3000 rpm.I'm starting to wonder if there is something wrong with my Atak lol.
:pound:

Snidely Whiplash 01-27-2014 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tarik1985 (Post 7373572)
I don't understand why a lot of people say that the Borla Atak cutback is too loud or too much for them , I just installed the cutback last week and it sounds just a little bit deeper than stock at idle and it's not that noticeable or annoying until you step on the gas and hit 3000 rpm.I'm starting to wonder if there is something wrong with my Atak lol.
:pound:

Some folks like me like a little stealth in our exhaust. I ordered drone-free GHL cat backs. LG Motorsports is doing free tunes with header installation.

tarik1985 01-28-2014 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snidely Whiplash (Post 7373770)
Some folks like me like a little stealth in our exhaust. I ordered drone-free GHL cat backs. LG Motorsports is doing free tunes with header installation.

I understand that, I might be wrong but I think the borla atak has so little if none drone. It all depends on personal preference though so for me the borla atak is perfect :)

HerRide 02-03-2014 05:31 PM

Great thread. I have been agonizing over this because I have ATAK with catless mids on my Challenger, but I feel that the S-type is better suited for my Camaro. Really tough decision!

Jpb972 02-03-2014 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HerRide (Post 7391930)
Great thread. I have been agonizing over this because I have ATAK with catless mids on my Challenger, but I feel that the S-type is better suited for my Camaro. Really tough decision!

S-Type!! You won't regret it.


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