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zfuzz 05-29-2014 02:34 PM

Hey Chase, regarding the Pfadt springs I just stumbled across this thread http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=214262 that was started in 2012. It discusses the Pfadt springs /isalators and spring noise.

The image below is what Pfadt said was the proper position for the isolators on the rear springs.

http://www.pfadtracing.com/photos/data/522/Pic3.jpg

Here is an image of the springs that I just purchased. The rears appear to have the isolator in the same spot. My question is this still correct and is there a right and wrong position for the isolators on the front springs. It appears they come with two.

http://tommyrhea.smugmug.com/Cars/Ap...7_122558-L.jpg

Apex Motorsports 06-22-2014 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dropspeed (Post 7702819)
Pedders claims they are a "linear rate" and I received that text from an email I sent to Pedders AU after Pedders USA closed shop. It was very interesting to me as before I got them Pedders USA stated the spring rates were higher than the stock springs rates, but would not provide the rates. My car sits 14/15mm lower in the front and 30/35mm lower in the rear with the Pedders set-up.

What is the difference between a linear rate spring and a dual or multi rate spring? Assuming all Gen5 drops springs that are installed on a stock strut (not coilovers) have to be one or the other.

Thanks,
Matt

The spring on the left in the picture below is a true linear rate spring. The coil size and spacing is the same throughout it's entire length.

The middle spring is the dual rate. You can see that there are two distinct regions at the top and the bottom of the spring. It is kind of like stacking linear rate springs on top of each other. The first part of the spring that compresses may have a softer rate, like the 130lbs number mentioned previously, to soak up pot holes and bumps and then it jumps to a stiffer rate after that.

Then, while not being the best visual example, on the right is the progressive rate spring. The coil diameter gets progressively wider from top to bottom on this one. The picture I posted in the OP is a much better example.

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Originally Posted by kream88 (Post 7702823)
Great read lots of great information.

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Originally Posted by billk (Post 7703384)
Thanks for the info Chase! I was just coming on here today to order springs for my 1LE. Perfect timing!

Glad it was helpful.

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Originally Posted by zfuzz (Post 7703499)
Hey Chase, regarding the Pfadt springs I just stumbled across this thread http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=214262 that was started in 2012. It discusses the Pfadt springs /isalators and spring noise.

The image below is what Pfadt said was the proper position for the isolators on the rear springs.

http://www.pfadtracing.com/photos/data/522/Pic3.jpg

Here is an image of the springs that I just purchased. The rears appear to have the isolator in the same spot. My question is this still correct and is there a right and wrong position for the isolators on the front springs. It appears they come with two.

http://tommyrhea.smugmug.com/Cars/Ap...7_122558-L.jpg

The isolators should be placed properly right out of the box.

DP Valentino 06-22-2014 01:24 PM

I definitely know about high/low slopped driveways, speed bumps, and dips in the middle of the street Because here in L.A there is a $#!t load of them, and I have scrapped my car on them a couple of time while riding! :mad0260: Overall good informative post! :thumb:

Apex Motorsports 08-12-2014 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DP Valentino (Post 7764345)
I definitely know about high/low slopped driveways, speed bumps, and dips in the middle of the street Because here in L.A there is a $#!t load of them, and I have scrapped my car on them a couple of time while riding! :mad0260: Overall good informative post! :thumb:

You definitely have to have more situational awareness after you lower a car. Thank you. :thumb:

mwendorf3 08-12-2014 06:59 PM

Great post and helped me decide as well as some PM messages from Apex. I just placed my order tonight for BMR 1" drop springs and Sways for my 2013. Can't wait to get them installed soon..

Thanks for the info.
Marvin

Apex Motorsports 08-20-2014 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by mwendorf3 (Post 7886226)
Great post and helped me decide as well as some PM messages from Apex. I just placed my order tonight for BMR 1" drop springs and Sways for my 2013. Can't wait to get them installed soon..

Thanks for the info.
Marvin

No problem. Thank you for your order.

jschlitz2 08-22-2014 07:08 PM

Hey Chase by looking at the picture of the springs ion the box, which would be front and which would be rear?

Apex Motorsports 09-02-2014 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jschlitz2 (Post 7906883)
Hey Chase by looking at the picture of the springs ion the box, which would be front and which would be rear?

The middle two are the fronts, the outer two are the rears.

CCMADONNA 09-02-2014 08:18 PM

Chase, you gave me some information a couple of months back regarding lowering my car. If you could please be more specific to the issues involved in lowering a convertible. I am not interesting in going to the track, and I don't want noise, just a nice ride with a slightly lowered stance. Thank you

bluerl10 09-03-2014 12:53 PM

What "supporting modifications" are require if any for lowering springs? 1-1.5" more specifically.

Is an alignment required after install?

Dropspeed 09-03-2014 01:00 PM

Anytime you raise, lower or alter the suspension an alignment is required.

mpiersd 09-03-2014 06:20 PM

Funny that I find this thread after the weekend I install my ZL-1 springs.
Good info.

Apex Motorsports 09-03-2014 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mpiersd (Post 7930496)
Funny that I find this thread after the weekend I install my ZL-1 springs.
Good info.

:lol: Of course. Congrats on the upgrade.

mpiersd 09-04-2014 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Apex Motorsports (Post 7930627)
:lol: Of course. Congrats on the upgrade.

Thanks. Liking the ride, wish it were a little lower, but the price was unbeatable.


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