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Redline Motorsports 08-05-2012 02:17 PM

When calibrations are done right.....
 
We had a customer this week bring us a GEN5 Camaro that he recently installed a stroker motor and Edelbrock TVS2300 supercharger. The car came from another shop who was hired to calibrate the car. After a few days of struggle the customer brought us the car to check out....

Here is the before and afterwards of there calibration vs. ours....


http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...83175404_n.jpg

Wait until this guy comes back from vacation this week! :happyanim:

I had to post this as this guy just got railed and its really upsetting that shops can continue to operate with this kind of work.....

Howard

white ZL1 08-05-2012 10:03 PM

:facepalm:
This has been going on for years. How some shops continue to stay in business surprises me. Nice thread on the HPT forum about this same crap.
Props to Redline.

KTWillys 08-05-2012 10:42 PM

Nice tune...


question for the pro's...

Given a choice which super charger would you go with for the Camaro V8..

also given smog laws it would need to still pass..

SLP?
Edelbrock?

ect..

looking at the SLP but its stage one only supplies 6 pounds of boost..
would like to see more along the lines of 8 to 9 pounds of boost.
Dont really want to get to the point of changing the injectors and cam..
want to keep this somewhat reasonable for the street..

then there is the second camaro that I am gong to build for racing..
what supercharger would you use there as well..


thanks guys..

New to this forum,, but an old guy, so if I am asking questions that seem stupid bare with me.. as I have had a lot of fumes from my nitro funny car days...:drinking:

Redline Motorsports 08-06-2012 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KTWillys (Post 5397208)
Nice tune...


question for the pro's...

Given a choice which super charger would you go with for the Camaro V8..

also given smog laws it would need to still pass..

SLP?
Edelbrock?

ect..

looking at the SLP but its stage one only supplies 6 pounds of boost..
would like to see more along the lines of 8 to 9 pounds of boost.
Dont really want to get to the point of changing the injectors and cam..
want to keep this somewhat reasonable for the street..

then there is the second camaro that I am gong to build for racing..
what supercharger would you use there as well..


thanks guys..

New to this forum,, but an old guy, so if I am asking questions that seem stupid bare with me.. as I have had a lot of fumes from my nitro funny car days...:drinking:

Of course this is a loaded topic and everyone has an opinion so my answer is solely based on; experience in working with all the supercharger manufactures, owning a performance facility and knowing the GEN5 car. That said and using the conditions you noted above, the E Force is a great option.

A roots blower on a 4000 lb car is a good choice. Rear wheel torque rules the street and a roots will get the job done over a centrifugal. It's a big enough blower to make 525 plus rear wheel. It also utilizes the Eaton 2300 TVS rotors which surely have been proven to be long lasting.

I also feel there brackets and hose connections are far superior.

Now if you wanted to make upwards of 800 HP there are better options.

It's also built in the USA and is 50 state emissions legal.

Just my .02...

Howard

Next Level Performance 08-06-2012 07:54 AM

Great job Howard, these other shops need to spend some time at Greg's Calibrated Success classes to learn how to accurately tune these vehicles, as we have. Another fine vehicle out of Redline's shop, keep up the great work.
Geoff.

Lethal Racing 08-06-2012 08:55 AM

It would be nice if tere weren't so many fly by night tuners. I have seen some tunes from the bigs shops that look like crap.

If you know the fundamentals of tuning then the cars will drive, run, and make great power. Howard knows how to do all of these things. He is one of the best.

Shawn

Redline Motorsports 08-06-2012 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lethal Racing (Post 5398299)
It would be nice if tere weren't so many fly by night tuners. I have seen some tunes from the bigs shops that look like crap.

If you know the fundamentals of tuning then the cars will drive, run, and make great power. Howard knows how to do all of these things. He is one of the best.

Shawn

Thanks Shawn!

I'll get the check sent out to you posting that! LOL!:bellyroll::sm0:

I think a lot of the issue is also that its one thing to understand the electronics but its another to understand engine dynamics. You need to put yourself inside the combustion chamber and understand whats happening and its effects on power output.

HT

Next Level Performance 08-06-2012 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redline Motorsports (Post 5398366)
Thanks Shawn!

I'll get the check sent out to you posting that! LOL!:bellyroll::sm0:

I think a lot of the issue is also that its one thing to understand the electronics but its another to understand engine dynamics. You need to put yourself inside the combustion chamber and understand whats happening and its effects on power output.

HT

Hey where's the love, I mean other check> LOL. :thumbup:

Redline Motorsports 08-06-2012 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Next Level Performance (Post 5398417)
Hey where's the love, I mean other check> LOL. :thumbup:

The checks in the mail! You already know I love yah! LOL!

Sure I live in the state and I still have to wait until PRI to see yah!

HT

Meister@Torq 08-06-2012 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KTWillys (Post 5397208)
Nice tune...


question for the pro's...

Given a choice which super charger would you go with for the Camaro V8..

also given smog laws it would need to still pass..

SLP?
Edelbrock?

ect..

looking at the SLP but its stage one only supplies 6 pounds of boost..
would like to see more along the lines of 8 to 9 pounds of boost.
Dont really want to get to the point of changing the injectors and cam..
want to keep this somewhat reasonable for the street..

then there is the second camaro that I am gong to build for racing..
what supercharger would you use there as well..


thanks guys..

New to this forum,, but an old guy, so if I am asking questions that seem stupid bare with me.. as I have had a lot of fumes from my nitro funny car days...:drinking:

This is coming from someone who is a Master WD for ALL S/C's on the market.

There is no question that the Whipple out performs every single SC currently on the market in Roots/Twin Screw configuration. There is MINIMAL HP/TQ difference down low and above 3500 it shines in terms of power making capability and intake air temperatures.

The install of the Whipple is also the cleanest looking IMO and uses OEM factory hoses, hose connections, etc.

At the same boost level, on the same day the Eforce and Maggy car run around 160* F and the Whipple car runs around 136F.

Let me know how I can help.

SC2150 08-06-2012 05:04 PM

:thumbsup: Tuners...lots. Good ones, few and far between.

Some good ones in this thread for sure.

:thumbsup:

Redline Motorsports 08-06-2012 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meister@Torq (Post 5400290)
This is coming from someone who is a Master WD for ALL S/C's on the market.

There is no question that the Whipple out performs every single SC currently on the market in Roots/Twin Screw configuration. There is MINIMAL HP/TQ difference down low and above 3500 it shines in terms of power making capability and intake air temperatures.

The install of the Whipple is also the cleanest looking IMO and uses OEM factory hoses, hose connections, etc.

At the same boost level, on the same day the Eforce and Maggy car run around 160* F and the Whipple car runs around 136F.

Let me know how I can help.

Here we go the PAUL MEISTER show!

Maybe you should start your own thread for your WD promotion....

HT

Z69 08-06-2012 06:04 PM

Nice job Howard!!! Some shops have no clue what they are doing? The use weird tactics to real in customers


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