Originally Posted by NightmareZL1 (Post 6554088)

Exactly my thought, every time I see a Z/28 praise post. And the apples to oranges comment, they are the same F-ing car! camaros. Each tweaked differently. This is not a mustang to camaro or M3 to corvette comparison - 2014 camaro to 2014 camaro. Give them the same tires and have at it, let GM be the embarrassed ones. haha.

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Even the base Z06 would spank the Z28. The Z06 corvette weight, aero and engine make it a near Perfect package. The Z28 is just an attempt at making a big slow thing faster.

Originally Posted by NightmareZL1 (Post 6554088)

Even the base Z06 would spank the Z28. The Z06 corvette weight, aero and engine make it a near Perfect package.

Originally Posted by NightmareZL1 (Post 6554088)

Exactly my thought, every time I see a Z/28 praise post. And the apples to oranges comment, they are the same F-ing car! camaros. Each tweaked differently. This is not a mustang to camaro or M3 to corvette comparison - 2014 camaro to 2014 camaro. Give them the same tires and have at it, let GM be the embarrassed ones. haha.

Originally Posted by DGthe3 (Post 6555197)

I don't see any reason why one design decision can be viewed as a 'cheat', while others are 'fair'. GM could have used any tires they wanted for the Z/28 -or the ZL1. They made their choice for what they felt was appropriate for the car. Just as they made similar choices for all the other areas of the car. Are you going to complain that they made the Z/28 300+ lbs lighter too? Because thats going to impact its track performance as well. So to be fair, we should probably add 300 lbs of ballast to the Z/28 and then see how well it does relative to the ZL1. Although ... the ZL1 would then have an 80 hp advantage. Alright then ... how about we limit the boost on the ZL1 to bring it down to 500 or so hp. It would only be fair, right? And then we can give the Z/28 the standard steel rotors from the ZL1. And maybe replace the MR shocks on the ZL1 with the more conventional ones in the Z/28? Mix and match the aero kits from the two of them as well.

I bet if you did all that, the two would end up in a practical dead heat because damn near everything would be the exact same. And nobody wants to see that. The Z/28 is different from the ZL1 ... thats the whole point of offering both of them. If you want a kickass track car, then the Z/28 is for you. If you are more of a Grand Touring kind of person, then look no further than the ZL1.

Originally Posted by detltu (Post 6554716)

It has been suggested that the Z06 may not beat the Z/28. Hard to believe, but amazing if true.

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12 (Post 6555836)

Don't ya just love "Bench Racing", nobody can be proved right or wrong....

Originally Posted by 90503 (Post 6555847)

I'd like to know which model Covette is "purpose built" for the track only...

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12 (Post 6555891)

The C6R....

Originally Posted by DGthe3 (Post 6555197)

I don't see any reason why one design decision can be viewed as a 'cheat', while others are 'fair'. GM could have used any tires they wanted for the Z/28 -or the ZL1. They made their choice for what they felt was appropriate for the car. Just as they made similar choices for all the other areas of the car. Are you going to complain that they made the Z/28 300+ lbs lighter too? Because thats going to impact its track performance as well. So to be fair, we should probably add 300 lbs of ballast to the Z/28 and then see how well it does relative to the ZL1. Although ... the ZL1 would then have an 80 hp advantage. Alright then ... how about we limit the boost on the ZL1 to bring it down to 500 or so hp. It would only be fair, right? And then we can give the Z/28 the standard steel rotors from the ZL1. And maybe replace the MR shocks on the ZL1 with the more conventional ones in the Z/28? Mix and match the aero kits from the two of them as well.

I bet if you did all that, the two would end up in a practical dead heat because damn near everything would be the exact same. And nobody wants to see that. The Z/28 is different from the ZL1 ... thats the whole point of offering both of them. If you want a kickass track car, then the Z/28 is for you. If you are more of a Grand Touring kind of person, then look no further than the ZL1.

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12 (Post 6555891)

The C6R....

Originally Posted by ShnOmac (Post 6555895)

:lol:

Originally Posted by ShnOmac (Post 6555941)

Just for giggles I looked up Laguna seca lap times for the ZR1 and the C6R...

2013 ZR1 = 1.33

C6R qualifying lap = 1.22

WOW



http://www.motortrend.com/features/laguna_lap/
http://www.alms.com/results/qualifying

Originally Posted by 90503 (Post 6555982)

Any C7 times at Milford?