from one dealer to another
 

Ok sir if you go to the quick order section through order workbench you can order the Camaros for your customers. Do you know your initial allocation? If not I can tel you where to find that info as well. The pricing information posted in this site under "camaro prices" is spot on and has been posted by someone withing GM or a dealer themselves. I hope this helps and good luck to you its been a rough year for us all.

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You obviously want to be able to help your customers and thats great. Your GM or whomever orders your new cars should be able to give you all of this information. It has been handed down from Chevrolet to us and yes we have had to dig the majority of it out ourselves to confirm our customers and our own suspicions. Who is your GM dealer rep? Your Zone Manager? Tell me where your located and I can find all of this out for you if your bosses wont tell you but to me if they wont answer these basic questions to you personally perhaps you should consider another opportunity elsewhere because they are holding you down as well as making your job more difficult than it already is. Turnover is rampant in our industry and our Zone Manager has other dealers managers contact me regularly to assist them with learning the ordering process, allocation, consensus review and submission etc. I have been with my same organazation 17 years and truly believe if all the Chevy dealers in my area do well it is better for us all. There is no dog eat dog system that really works n my opinion, there is enough food for all of us at the table who do right by there customers! Contact me anytime if I can be of assistance.

It just doesn't make sense to me. Why would GM "leak" the info to Camaro5, but make the dealers dig so hard for it?

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[QUOTE=Rodrunner;186213]It just doesn't make sense to me. Why would GM "leak" the info to Camaro5, but make the dealers dig so hard for it?

you make a valid point. or are we just rabid.

[QUOTE=jimbo57;186227]Perhaps GM knows that this site is full of Camaro enthusiasts. And in an effort to keep us informed, excited and ordering they provided the information we had been asking for fomr some time. By getting Camaros out there and in our hands (as well as the information) we will actually do a lot of free advertising for them. Just perhaps.

I doubt it's GM that's officially doing it. More like some mid-lower level GM employee who doesn't mind risking their job and just wants the info out there.

Bobby or other dealers, has the full pricing for options, etc been released to dealers? The dealer I was talking to today said he hasn't seen anything official from GM other than the base MSRP listed on www.chevrolet.com/camaro. Is there somewhere I can tell him to look? He knows about camaro5 but doesn't really want to trust the price sheet listed until it comes from GM.

It's all there. Most dealers are not paying attention but then most are not enthusiasts. Dealer World and Chevylaunch have it all but this forum is a great resource as well!! Im finding some customers who are hitting dealers who have no idea but are probably wanting to avoid advance orders so they can order stock vehicles that will command an early premium.....or maybe they just have no clue.:yikes:

Do you guys on the site see this? This is a dealer responding to another dealer's questions on this site. :sm1: This is proof that not all dealers are idiots. Additionally, this is proof that some dealers do care about their customers enough to seek out more information than they are required to have about their products. I just wanted to point this out because there are plenty of friendly salespeople out there that make their commissions by doing the right thing and helping people rather than snubbing customers and demanding that you pay as much as possible.

Everybody makes a hiring mistake sometimes!:bonk: But seriously, if you are going do spend time doing something...why not try to do it well.

Completely agree. Let's not scare dealers away by being a-holes when they ask questions. The more dealers know the better.

I can tell you from experience that priorities of a place of business may not match the priorities of an employee. For example, I used to work at The Home Depot as a cashier. I did not ask to renew my temporary status because they put me on probation because I failed to add one check because it was stuck to the check in front of it. My drawer was correct, so it is customary in the retail industry to warn me of my small mistake because it did not cost the company anything. Instead, management filled out a bunch of paperwork to put me on probation. Meanwhile, customers were lining up at registers while they informed me of this decision because they were short a cashier with me gone.

Basically, it isn't always the employee's fault that the company, franchise, or local management has misguided goals. Customers should come first, but sometimes placing the customer first is impossible when management would rather bring in extra money or arbitrarily cause problems for associates.

Then, there is always the possibility that the employee is the problem. I know that my academic performance has varied when I was required to take a class with which I've had no interest in taking when compared to classes in my major or classes I've taken out of interest. If an employee is disinterested or more focused on the money than the job of making people happy.

In any case, there are a few places to direct the blame when salespeople are terrible at doing their jobs. It could be the company, the management, or the salesperson.

This is not totally true, at Indy, The Camaro team leaders were clearly providing info for us that they did not intend to get out in general at that time. We were asked not to record the presentation. We were told it was for us alone. We greatly appreciated the info and hope we did not violate their trust. So we should not fault salesmen who don't know as much as we do. However, I do believe they should know the basics.

I didn't realize they did that. That's really cool. Even without that, I agree that we can't expect them to know everything and that wasn't the point of my thread. I do, however, expect them to know the very basics a few weeks after the info is available to everybody, not just enthusiasts or dealers. The range of BS I've heard from dealers being misinformed or just trying to pull one over on the uninformed masses has been disheartening.

However, I really must add that I've come across a few dealers who are genuinely knowledgeable and honest. It's just sad that the ones that don't know crap outnumber the ones that do.

Chevylaunch has nothing more than base prices, and Dealer World...what the hell is that? It's not even a valid domain!

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