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Graham Behan 04-14-2012 12:35 PM

Lingenfelter modified ZL-1 Runs 11.03@130
 
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Thought you may like this Hot Rod news update.

http://blogs.hotrod.com/the-race-to-the-10s-23325.html
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When you get an email asking if you can be at the track tomorrow to photograph the first 2012 ZL1 Camaro breaking into the 10s, you don’t ask too many questions. When we rolled into Milan Dragway in Milan, Michigan, and met up with Mike Copeland of Lingenfelter Performance Engineering (LPE), the questions we figured you would want to ask started flowing.

The ZL1 that wore the Lingenfelter banner at the track had minimal modifications. The only underhood upgrades was the LPE was outfitted with were a supercharger pulley to bump up the boost, reflashed ECM, 160-degree thermostat and a LPE ported and polished airintake leading to a K&N air filter. The only other modifications to the car were swapping out the street performance tires for skinnies up front and Nitto NT05R drag radials out back.

This very car had run 11.03 at 130 mph at Muncie Dragway. With great air temperatures and the Milan track team prepping the starting line, it looked like a promising day.

The first pass was decent, posting an 11.22. During the next series of passes, an assortment of launched styles, shift points and tire air pressure showed varied results.

Although no one was complaining about making passes at a dragstrip for a couple of hours, the team could only capture an 11.11 at 128 mph during this track outing.

So, the illusive 10-second ZL1 Camaro is still illusive! But the crew at Lingenfelter vows to be back, and soon, to try to be the first!

http://stblogs.hotrod.com/files/2012..._2-650x431.jpg

The only thing under hood on the Lingenfelter Performance Engineering (LPE) ZL1 Camaro that hints that the car is not stock is the polished air intake tube and open-element K&N air filter. A more trained eye will also notice that he supercharger pulley is not stock, which increases boost 3-4 psi over stock.

http://stblogs.hotrod.com/files/2012..._3-650x431.jpg

To help with traction, A set of Nitto NT05R drag radials were bolted on the rear of the car. These are P305/45R18s, while a pair of 5.50-17 tires up remove the drag of wide front tires.


http://stblogs.hotrod.com/files/2012..._4-650x430.jpg

boxmonkeyracing 04-14-2012 12:39 PM

interesting. how much boost did the pulley give and what kind of tune is on the ECM. more curious as to the actual dyno graph on it.

paul2010 04-14-2012 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing (Post 4804773)
interesting. how much boost did the pulley give and what kind of tune is on the ECM. more curious as to the actual dyno graph on it.

If you saw the previous post with the dyno graphs it looked like in stock form it was making a max of 8psi of boost. Add the 3 - 4psi of boost per what the article said in Hot Rod and you would have approximately 11 - 12psi of boost. Nice runs LPE!

paul2010 04-14-2012 12:53 PM

The cold air intake looks like it fits perfect and probably makes great power with this alone.

Doubleblank 04-14-2012 12:54 PM

Now we're getting somewhere. Simple mods really made a great time.

Tob 04-14-2012 12:57 PM

Wait. Was proper break-in followed?

SRT8Tech 04-14-2012 12:57 PM

Ahhhhhh, running VP109 fuel. Even so, for just a pulley change, tune and CAI thats pretty damn impressive. Not just the times but the trap speed..............

boxmonkeyracing 04-14-2012 12:58 PM

I got my wish. lol. so a 2.0 60' would net around an 11.8. so yea.

2ndCamaro79 04-14-2012 12:59 PM

That was sweet, but if your going to mod a ZL1 to go fast straight, would your money be better spent on a SS?

Graham Behan 04-14-2012 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tob (Post 4804826)
Wait. Was proper break-in followed?

Yes its now broken in;)

Crowley 04-14-2012 12:59 PM

Very nice if that is really 3-4 more psi and for the mods .. .. cheap mods and big gains :)

Crowley

G8GT4now 04-14-2012 01:02 PM

Sorry if I missed them in another post, but what were the baseline times?

big hammer 04-14-2012 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by G8GT4now (Post 4804845)
Sorry if I missed them in another post, but what were the baseline times?

they are suspect but 12.5 @ 116

boxmonkeyracing 04-14-2012 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by big hammer (Post 4804854)
they are suspect but 12.5 @ 116

that would be Henessey times not LPE. the base line LPE did was dyno charts and it is in another thread.

Graham Behan 04-14-2012 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by G8GT4now (Post 4804845)
Sorry if I missed them in another post, but what were the baseline times?

This vehicle was not baseline tested at the track.

Graham.

big hammer 04-14-2012 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing (Post 4804864)
that would be Henessey times not LPE. the base line LPE did was dyno charts and it is in another thread.

ah yes my mistake.

b_williams_82 04-14-2012 01:17 PM

So I have on order a Yellow ZL1 in Michigan, that may get pushed back to a '13! Any info on if I can get some of these mods on mine before I bring her home?? And cost?? Sorry a little new at this! I had an 02 SS with the Stage 2 SLP Package, but any info on how to contact Lingenfelter would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

2010 SSRS 04-14-2012 01:17 PM

I love it, easy 10's with that mph :chevy:

boxmonkeyracing 04-14-2012 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by b_williams_82 (Post 4804892)
So I have on order a Yellow ZL1 in Michigan, that may get pushed back to a '13! Any info on if I can get some of these mods on mine before I bring her home?? And cost?? Sorry a little new at this! I had an 02 SS with the Stage 2 SLP Package, but any info on how to contact Lingenfelter would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

um go to their website and call them? google, email?

GEEo 04-14-2012 01:22 PM

Now thats Impressive!!

zadjaliz 04-14-2012 01:24 PM

Impressive!!! Run was made with vp109 fuel or 93octane? Any videos?

Luvpilot 04-14-2012 01:29 PM

VP109

Check the dyno chart

2ndCamaro79 04-14-2012 01:29 PM

If getting power is that easy why did GM, just not do these things from the start?? Or why don't the 2013s come with a pully change and better cold air unit so you don't have to loose the warranty on a 60K car??

b_williams_82 04-14-2012 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing (Post 4804909)
um go to their website and call them? google, email?

Thanks!! Just looked them up!! I just may have to have them take a good look at mine before I drive/haul it home!!

GunnyG 04-14-2012 01:32 PM

That's awesome! Can't wait to see it break into the 10's. Car is definitely capable! Good luck, happy modding, and safe racing!

jewc75 04-14-2012 01:32 PM

Nice.

radz28 04-14-2012 01:33 PM

NICE!!!

G8GT4now 04-14-2012 01:38 PM

These runs were done on Apr 5th?

I am surprised that the first we hear of it is 9 days later.

I thought the internet was faster too!

Graham Behan 04-14-2012 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by G8GT4now (Post 4804960)
These runs were done on Apr 5th?

I am surprised that the first we hear of it is 9 days later.

I thought the internet was faster too!

Hot Rod did the article and it's their choice as to when it is published not outs.

Graham.

boxmonkeyracing 04-14-2012 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 2ndCamaro79 (Post 4804933)
If getting power is that easy why did GM, just not do these things from the start?? Or why don't the 2013s come with a pully change and better cold air unit so you don't have to loose the warranty on a 60K car??

IT's called reliability. GM wants your cars to last as long as possible. LPE and tuners want your cars to perform consistently but don't expect them to last 150k miles.

Thyshallsmite 04-14-2012 01:47 PM

So race gas, race tires, tune, pulley, intake, ported, thermostat oh and the warranty is now gone. Still can't break 10second though, still pretty disappointing. Think what the ZL1 is showing is that the SS is a great value, slap 30k worth of mods (price difference between the 2) in an SS and you got something putting out 9s/ high 8s. Though that magnetic ride is quite nice and maybe the aerodynamics aren't BS, though is it really worth 30k to have the zl1 as a starting point to mod rather than the SS.

G8GT4now 04-14-2012 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Graham Behan (Post 4804977)
Hot Rod did the article and it's their choice as to when it is published not outs.

Graham.

I wasn't pointing any fingers. I just figured this would have leaked out sooner.

Pgoldston 04-14-2012 01:50 PM

I like what I see. 10s should be easy with that mph. Are the 60' ft's limited by the tire or testing? As well will a 17inch rim fit on the back with a slick and can you hit the car any harder? I may have missed it manual or auto?

If you dont mind me asking did you get any air temp data?

Sorry for all the questions more interested in data than the actual run, but the run is nice and shows that once time is given the zl1 will be able to kill at the strip and the road course with out affecting each other.

adamgl 04-14-2012 01:50 PM

Baseline time would have been nice.

boxmonkeyracing 04-14-2012 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Thyshallsmite (Post 4804991)
So race gas, race tires, tune, pulley, intake, ported, thermostat oh and the warranty is now gone. Still can't break 10second though, still pretty disappointing. Think what the ZL1 is showing is that the SS is a great value, slap 30k worth of mods (price difference between the 2) in an SS and you got something putting out 9s/ high 8s. Though that magnetic ride is quite nice and maybe the aerodynamics aren't BS, though is it really worth 30k to have the zl1 as a starting point to mod rather than the SS.

LOL it's on the verge of 10's. and it could have been a couple of things keeping it out that day. track prep only at the starting line, track maybe was cold and the temp could have been also. Seems like your expectations are a little high.

If you only care about going in a straight line (which sounds like that's all you do). then modify your SS swap out the rear for a SRA and go to town.

A new car is out and they are scratching the surface. On a good day with a good track that car would have seen 10's easy.

Pgoldston 04-14-2012 01:55 PM

As well so many people keep pointing out that their ss will keep up for less, thats great but would it be able to keep up on the road course as well. Normally everything is a compromise from one to the other. the ZL1 is starting to show that it will be able to hang pretty good at both tracks with a little work and not upsetting the cars suspension or much of anything else.

Also people talk about the warranty, everything I have seen on this car can be switched back to stock pretty easy unless GM is actually watching how many times the tune is changed. I had heard rumors of this but never got anything solid on it.

Graham Behan 04-14-2012 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pgoldston (Post 4805004)
I like what I see. 10s should be easy with that mph. Are the 60' ft's limited by the tire or testing? As well will a 17inch rim fit on the back with a slick and can you hit the car any harder? I may have missed it manual or auto?

If you dont mind me asking did you get any air temp data?

Sorry for all the questions more interested in data than the actual run, but the run is nice and shows that once time is given the zl1 will be able to kill at the strip and the road course with out affecting each other.

;)
Launch was a little tricky to maintain consistently, da. Was 1800 ft temp mid 60s iat 2 at the end of the run was 160 f
Better tires will help greatly, car transfers pretty well, overall we'repretty pleased, but not satisfied ;)

boxmonkeyracing 04-14-2012 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Graham Behan (Post 4805040)
;)
Launch was a little tricky to maintain consistently, da. Was 1800 ft temp mid 60s iat 2 at the end of the run was 160 f
Better tires will help greatly, car transfers pretty well, overall we'repretty pleased, but not satisfied ;)

what you're saying is you need more seat time? lol. good stuff.

newmoon 04-14-2012 02:06 PM

11:00s @ 130-mph with nothing more than a Cold Air Kit, Smaller SC Pulley, Tune, Tires, and some race fuel :). The mph should be good for 10:70s.

69 Rebel 04-14-2012 02:08 PM

Now i feel MUCH better, after having spent the better part of the morning reading about the disappointing times Hennessy put up on a stock ZL1 at the track.


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