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guerrillakilla13 08-03-2018 04:43 PM

May need new pads (anything else?)
 
I'm currently on 40k miles with stock brake pads. It's probably about time I get my pads inspected. I usually brake lightly but lately I've been noticing a weaker brake pedal.

I haven't done anything mechanical-wise in years. Are the brakes / rotors / pads unique enough on our cars for me to go to a dealer instead of a standalone shop? If not, do I need to get a specific set of pads for our SS's (the Brembo's) or will the dealer / shop have the best options available?

Will I also need to get the rotors and fluid done? What should I generally look for / expect at 40k miles?

Me doing it is out of the question, I don't have the tools nor the experience. I know these are dumb questions so thanks for the help.

SquawkVFR 08-03-2018 04:52 PM

It might be a good time to consider up grading to ceramic pads and dot 4 fluid. Cuts way back on brake dust and you’ll like the improved stopping power...

guerrillakilla13 08-03-2018 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SquawkVFR (Post 10271595)
It might be a good time to consider up grading to ceramic pads and dot 4 fluid. Cuts way back on brake dust and you’ll like the improved stopping power...

Good call, appreciate it. What does that do for longevity?

Does the dealership have this stuff or do I need to purchase myself / have the shop buy it?

SquawkVFR 08-03-2018 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by guerrillakilla13 (Post 10271616)
Good call, appreciate it. What does that do for longevity?

Does the dealership have this stuff or do I need to purchase myself / have the shop buy it?

Simply ceramic material just lasts longer than the others.......I doubt the dealership will have them. I recommend Hawk pads....Tire Rack usually has good prices. If you’re not doing any performance driving, don’t sweat the brake fluid.

guerrillakilla13 08-03-2018 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SquawkVFR (Post 10271629)
Simply ceramic material just lasts longer than the others.......I doubt the dealership will have them. I recommend Hawk pads....Tire Rack usually has good prices. If you’re not doing any performance driving, don’t sweat the brake fluid.

Thanks alot. I'll ask for ceramics. The Hawk pads are expensive but i'm assuming that's going to be the case for a lot of pads

StreetRage320 08-03-2018 08:42 PM

definitely go with ceramics..Hawk is a good choice.

they do have a very specific brake in period for optimum performance and longevity..would recommend following that procedure.

I never trust shops..but if you do bring it to a shop make sure they use brake grease.

guerrillakilla13 08-05-2018 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by StreetRage320 (Post 10271796)
definitely go with ceramics..Hawk is a good choice.

they do have a very specific brake in period for optimum performance and longevity..would recommend following that procedure.

I never trust shops..but if you do bring it to a shop make sure they use brake grease.

Same, I really don't trust shops but i'm doing my research on Yelp and Google Maps and found a "great" shop around me.. yeah we'll see how that goes. I unfortunately don't have the expertise nor equipment to do this myself.

Hawk pads sound great but i'm not loving the price - i'm still paying off the car and owe roughly 9k. Don't want to do anything performance-wise until the payments are done, so i'd like to stay as close to OEM as possible.

CamaroFred 08-05-2018 04:00 PM

The OEM pads are some of the best pads you can buy.
If you don't do a lot of hard braking I would doubt if you need new pads yet. There is a squealer on the pads that will contact the rotor when the pads are worn to the point of replacement.
These Brembos are designed for hard braking and easy braking all the time can cause the pedal to feel a bit low and a glaze can develop on the pads.

Take your Camaro onto a road without much traffic and get up to 40-45 MPH and STOMP the brakes to almost a stop. You might need to repeat that a few times. That should improve the braking if it hasn't been done in a while.

guerrillakilla13 08-06-2018 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by CamaroFred (Post 10273242)
The OEM pads are some of the best pads you can buy.
If you don't do a lot of hard braking I would doubt if you need new pads yet. There is a squealer on the pads that will contact the rotor when the pads are worn to the point of replacement.
These Brembos are designed for hard braking and easy braking all the time can cause the pedal to feel a bit low and a glaze can develop on the pads.

Take your Camaro onto a road without much traffic and get up to 40-45 MPH and STOMP the brakes to almost a stop. You might need to repeat that a few times. That should improve the braking if it hasn't been done in a while.

I do have squealing, but only at lower speeds and with medium braking. If I brake lightly, or hard, I don't hear squeal. How consistent is the squealer if i'm at the end of the pads lifespan?

The stomp idea sounds good, but i'll hold off until I know exactly where my pads are at.

guerrillakilla13 08-09-2018 10:10 PM

Could someone tell me how consistent / loud the brake squeal is when the pads are nearing its end?

SynergyGreenSS 08-09-2018 11:07 PM

May need new pads (anything else?)
 
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Originally Posted by guerrillakilla13 (Post 10278146)
Could someone tell me how consistent / loud the brake squeal is when the pads are nearing its end?



You should be able to look through your wheel spokes at the side of the brake pad where it contacts the rotor and see if the squealer is touching the rotor causing squealing. You should also be able to see if the pad life is getting low.

Additionally, I’m running power stop rotors and pads all around and so far I’m really liking them. They’re very reasonably priced in my opinion. They seem to stop much better than stock, and the pads they supply are ceramic so there much less brake dust although they do have a tendency to squeal

frankwjr 08-10-2018 08:37 AM

If the tattle tail is touching the rotor your brakes would screech, not squeal...totally different sound. And they would do it regardless of speed, you would hear it every time.


And I politely disagree with the fluid bleed. I highly recommend getting this done properly and either going with a DOT 3/4 or straight DOT 4.


As far as I am concerned, brakes are THE most important system in the car and I make sure that me and mine are safe when ever we go for a ride.


Good luck!


peace

KB85 08-10-2018 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by frankwjr (Post 10278410)
If the tattle tail is touching the rotor your brakes would screech, not squeal...totally different sound. And they would do it regardless of speed, you would hear it every time.


And I politely disagree with the fluid bleed. I highly recommend getting this done properly and either going with a DOT 3/4 or straight DOT 4.


As far as I am concerned, brakes are THE most important system in the car and I make sure that me and mine are safe when ever we go for a ride.


Good luck!


peace

This here. When mine was touching the rotor it made a sound that I could hear at slow speeds and highway speeds. It wasn't a jet flying over loud but its loud enough you will notice it. At first I wasn't sure what it was. I had about 35K miles when they needed replaced.

knr13 08-12-2018 06:57 PM

what about the rotors slotted, drilled should i replace them as well when replacing pads ? some say yes some say no


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