True.

Keep in mind, too, the ATS Sport is acquainting itself quite well against the current 3-Series offerings...which bodes very well for the Gen-6 Camaro's development, as I'm sure it's level of expectation, in certain forms, will be well-beyond the ATS...

We may get a peek if we see an ATS coupe and V series if those are on track as rumored.

Yes and yes again. :thumbsup:

M4 is going to be very lightweight.

It is also important to keep in mind that grip and handling are not the same thing. You can put a gutted and stiff Mitsubishi on 3XX mm Hoosiers and have more absolute grip than a lotus cup car on r compounds, but it isn't going to be a lotus cup car.

And it would probably ride like poo

Ahhhhhhhh needed to come in The House for a breath. A lot of angst and curmudgeonly behavior out in the pricing thread. Commonly understood business practices don't seem to apply when it comes to the Camaro.

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I don't know why I keep trying..... :facepalm:

I'm wore out...:fighting0030:

Have to say I totally anticipated this. All the 60k numbers that kept flying around. And not just on this forum. I really thought mid 80's so this got me excited.

I have the #1 allocation at an MSRP only dealer here but the Recaro seats are going to be a problem. The side bolsters hit me right in the sides and when I mention swapping them out my wife goes nuts because she's in love with those seats.

Ughhhhh...:faint:

Driver mod.... :confused0068:

Time to start drinking raw eggs and jumping rope... good luck!! :bonk:

I'm not surprised by the negative comments in the pricing thread, it was to be expected. My take is that Chevrolet did a great job of putting together an awesome Z/28 package that directly relates to the Z/28 heritage, I fully understand why the pricing is what it is (and I think it is a bargain for everything that is in the package). The only regret I have is that I will not be able to squeeze a new Z/28 into my budget, I have wanted a 5th gen Z/28 ever since the 5th gen prototype was first shown at the Detroit Auto Show way back. As a former 1st gen Z/28 owner, I've loved the Z/28 for a long time, just won't be able to have the new version.
Clyde

I really think the seats are going to kill the deal. I hate to give up the guaranteed slot, but driver weight reduction is in order.

I seriously think anyone over 180 is going to have problems with these seats.

Really? I'm 6'3" 225 with a 34" waist, go or no go?

I have a feeling that the argument about price is going to be moot as I would bet they do not make more than 2500 of them. At that #, price is irrelevant as there will be plenty of people who want one and have the money that will not have the connections to actually get one. Me for example, I have the desire and wallet but not the connections so I am most likely out. The way FBODFATHER talked in the pricing string, once the final time and quantity #'s come out, everyone complaining about price will shut up.