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VADER SS L99 03-11-2013 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Falundir (Post 6270948)
It has been tested by a few different shops and all showed gains, however many people still don't want to believe the results.

Please tell me what shop tested this on a engine dyno? A engine dyno is completely different from a chassis dyno because you can completely control the environment and all testing paramiters.

ssmike 03-11-2013 08:46 AM

Oh man this subject has been beat to death! :frusty: Let's all agree to disagree and move on! Strange thing is I keep coming back to read this thread even though I know it's a loosing argument no matter what! I was thinking about getting one because I do believe in the feel you might get with throttle response but I'm installing 3.91's soon and I think THAT will give me all the throttle response I need! :whoo: I'll put that $100 to better use to help pay for the gears install!

litle88 03-11-2013 08:57 AM

^^^thete you go^^^

Those are real mods!

DuskSS 03-11-2013 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by litle88 (Post 6271650)
^^^thete you go^^^

Those are real mods!

lol not like I'm not getting real mods either..
new ported/milled heads, new cam, new ported intake and TB and a crapload of other stuff.. we will see. like others said it's 100 bucks which is nothing.
I spend that on lunch some days.

ssmike 03-11-2013 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jasonpope2003 (Post 6271663)
lol not like I'm not getting real mods either..
new ported/milled heads, new cam, new ported intake and TB and a crapload of other stuff.. we will see. like others said it's 100 bucks which is nothing.
I spend that on lunch some days.

Let me know next time you go to lunch if you're buying! :sm0:

litle88 03-11-2013 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jasonpope2003 (Post 6271663)
lol not like I'm not getting real mods either..
new ported/milled heads, new cam, new ported intake and TB and a crapload of other stuff.. we will see. like others said it's 100 bucks which is nothing.
I spend that on lunch some days.


Haha hey I didn't mean you weren't bud!

biggerisbetter 03-11-2013 10:00 AM

i would go for it man. at worst you spent $100 dollars. wich in the big scheme of things is not that much. and i also agree that if shawn or nick say its good to go then it probably is. they havent been decieving or misleading in any way to me(they have had plenty of chances).

rjuarez 05-14-2013 04:04 PM

Vararam Power Wedge
 
Vararam Power Wedge

Does it really work? Has anyone used it already.

1LeSS 05-15-2013 12:22 AM

Funny, saw a thread over on moderncamaro about this ....just now.
Im interested to know if the claims are true also.

rjuarez 05-15-2013 01:54 PM

Yea I saw it first at phastek but I wanted to see if anyone has tried it. It seems to have pretty good support.

onebad1le 05-16-2013 12:52 PM

Results
 
Anyone with good report?

SWAG1LE 05-16-2013 03:05 PM

:reposthorse:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...=282009&page=2

DuskSS 05-16-2013 03:07 PM

Lethal believes in it.
my package without it made 490 with just a ported intake before tuning.. after installing it with a ported TB and intake then dialing it in made 510.

snake oil or not in some peoples eyes we have seen gains with it down here.

BlaqWhole 05-17-2013 10:48 AM

I just ordered one yesterday. It will be in on Tuesday. For $99 shipped, I figured I might as well give it a shot...

Silver2S 05-21-2014 12:24 PM

Any results Blaq Whole

1989GTA 05-21-2014 12:54 PM

I saw a post the other day where someone gained 2-3rwhp. First time I saw a private party test with one installed.

Rhino79 05-21-2014 12:56 PM

I tried it on a bone stock car here. It made 2-3 rwhp from about 5600 and up. Auto car

F-16 Camaro 05-21-2014 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhino79 (Post 7683224)
I tried it on a bone stock car here. It made 2-3 rwhp from about 5600 and up. Auto car

That's good info.

Also disappointing.

Juice2SS 05-21-2014 02:26 PM

Every bit counts.

EmeryZ28 05-21-2014 06:28 PM

3RWHP from something that just adjusts the angle of the TB and cost $99 isn't all that bad at all!

sutherlacd27 05-23-2014 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhino79 (Post 7683224)
I tried it on a bone stock car here. It made 2-3 rwhp from about 5600 and up. Auto car

Let me ask this...when you run the same car with no changes 3 times with lets say a 15 minute break inbetween each run (since i dont know the install time for this piece) how much uncertainty do you find? I would bet you see uncertainty that high (but i could be wrong)...and anything measured within the uncertainty range is considered negligible and not real in the engineering field.

axis 05-23-2014 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sutherlacd27 (Post 7688742)
Let me ask this...when you run the same car with no changes 3 times with lets say a 15 minute break inbetween each run (since i dont know the install time for this piece) how much uncertainty do you find? I would bet you see uncertainty that high (but i could be wrong)...and anything measured within the uncertainty range is considered negligible and not real in the engineering field.

That would depend on what the other runs showed. I've been there with Ryan and know that he doesn't just make one pull and call it good. It has to hold up to SEVERAL pulls. If all those pulls consistently show gains in varying amounts, you can assume that it's helping, even with such small numbers.

We can use my thread about his modded intake manifold as an example. It showed 4hp/4tq gain through the entire powerband. It consistently showed gains in every pull we ran. I think we made 6 or so pulls with the intake, with no tuning in between. Some were a little lower, some where higher, but it was consistently higher than baseline. We used a pull that was repeatable and somwhere in the middle of all the pulls, numbers wise.

Rhino79 05-23-2014 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sutherlacd27 (Post 7688742)
Let me ask this...when you run the same car with no changes 3 times with lets say a 15 minute break inbetween each run (since i dont know the install time for this piece) how much uncertainty do you find? I would bet you see uncertainty that high (but i could be wrong)...and anything measured within the uncertainty range is considered negligible and not real in the engineering field.

I ran 3 stock, installed part 3 with wedge, graphs were identical till just before redline.

954camaro 05-24-2014 04:48 PM

Cannot believe one of my first threads on this forum is still being talked about! Hahaha

Coukostos 05-24-2014 06:31 PM

I installed one, but not sure yet if it makes a difference. I am tuned with LT's w/cats, and a Vararam intake. I'm mostly not sure of if it made a difference, because I hastily put it on almost right after getting it tuned.

Interesting to note, is in the directions, it specifically says that VR equiped camaros that are custom tuned, will need to get retuned due to the MAF scaling. I'm thinking about taking it off and running without it to see if it is affecting my tune, and if it feels any different. All told, I wish I purchased before I got my tune, as now I'm not sure if it is going to work well for me regardless.


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