SEMA Preview: GM Performance Parts 638-hp LS9 Crate engine
 

Here it is folks..make your own Z/28

General Motors has announced that the blown beastie that lives under the hood of the Corvette ZR1 will be available as a crate motor next fall and our head is spinning with the swap possibilities.

With 639 hp and 604 lb.-ft. of twist available from the 6.2-liter supercharged V8, and dimensions shared by the LS3, any number of vehicles could make a happy home for the LS9. According to GM, the engine comes fully dressed, with an ignition system, exhaust manifolds and supercharger, and only needs an external oil tank and coolant tank (for the charge cooler), an ECU and wiring harness.

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/10/28/s...-crate-engine/

how much would that beast cost?

Firstly, this would not make your car a Z28 clone because there is no Z28 to clone. In other words, you cannot make your own Z28.

Secondly, this would cost way more than you are willing to spend on a Camaro.

I'm thinking about $10K... Ouch! That would put my SS dang near $50K! Youch!!! LSA for me :D

^probably more than that. Plus what sucks is they didn't put the camaro in the poll, i would have definitely voted for it.

I think it would be closer to $20K

God almighty guy....did you really need to waste time explaining that the LS9 wouldn 't REALLY make it a Z/28???

Why thank you captain obvious.

The point was that this is what a few expected to be in the Z/28 (or more specifically the LSA)

I'd plan it being more than that. Street prices for the LS7 are around $13.5k-$15.5k.

ding ding

Ouch ... hmmmm wonder how much the ford 5.4L 32V S/C motor is :popcorn:

Edit .. found one with some performance parts on it ....

18.1k or so so 20k wouldn't be unreasonable ...

http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...KeyField=10261

That being said, I wonder how much to put in some forged internals, lower the compression and put some aftermarket s/c or turbos on it .... I bet you could do it for under 20k ..

Crowley

:laugh: I don't want anyone to read it wrong and think that a Z28 has been confirmed.

Don't tell people about my secret identity, Captain Obvious, because it will give away my true identity to my enemies. :sm0:

A lot of people for some reason expected the Z28 to be the LSA or LS9. The problem is that they are expecting it when they should merely be hoping for it. When we put expectations like these on GM, a lot of people get disappointed when the reality is that the Camaro is neither GM's flagship nor the top moneymaker. GM has a lot of other platforms to improve and build before a Z28 becomes a top priority. Hopefully, GM is hugely profitable again in a couple of years, and a Z28 becomes a real possibility. Until then, we should hope, not expect, that GM again builds performance editions, like the Z28. :thumbsup:

I'd guess it will be about 20k as well, which would make it impossible for a sub 50k Z28.

dont forget to minus the cost of the ls3 you won't be using:)

I read on Edmunds that the ZR1 can smoke the tires in third gear at 75mph. Who the heck would want to do that in their Camaro?? ;) :burnrubber:


Edit: I should have said those sticky size 335mm rear tires. :D

YUP

from http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=181702

Burnouts at 75 mph
We're barely out of Phoenix before the 2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 lays down the gauntlet, or more accurately, the stripes. That's right, drop the ZR1 into 3rd gear, nail the throttle and it will light up the back tires at 75 mph before launching you into triple digits.

+beefier suspension
+light weight body panels
+extra profit

+ they won't make it cheaper than the Gt500 .. lol ...

Crowley

I've been wondering about that. Based on a conversation I had with Robert91RS, We're not sure you get a credit/core for the existing motor. You may have to sell it on Ebay.... :iono:

If you drop an LS9 into the camaro you can call it anything you want....except 'slow'.

For some reason I kept thinking about how 'Father mentioned how expensive the LS7 is and it wouldn't be practical for this kind of model - DOAH. Same crank, rods, and some other goodies, LOL! BUT, don't forget the LS7 has CNC ported heads that are totally different than the LS3 head that is roto-cast. That might make up for the cost of the supercharger, also, that means no intake manifold since it's integrated onto the supercharger. HOWEVER, the LS7 doesn't have a dual-mode fuel system, like the LS9 and LSA. BUT, the LSA doesn't need the dry sump system the LS7 and LS9 need. BUT, the LS7 doesn't have oil piston squirters like LS9 and LSA. Pistons are forged in the LS9; bigger head bolts; more head gasket layers; different water pump; nine bolt flywheel with twin disc clutch; blah blah blah...

On second thought - you guys near the $20Ks - I'm with you...

ARE YOU KIDDING?!!! ME!!! :D:chevy:

hmmm....wouldn't this be the modern ZL1???

Using the LS7 would be more appropriate: Aluminum 427.

Jeebus!

:word:
:wave:...right here, bud! ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME

That's just insane..

I'd give it a try....especially in the fast lane after some clown going 50 mph finally moves over. :D

This whole crate ls9 thing is reeeeeeealllly messing with my head.... a lot.

It would be sweet.....and I'm sure someone is going to do it. If not an individual it will be a third party.

LS9 IN NEW CAMARO???
 

"GM Performance Parts has announced the introduction of its 638 HP LS9 crate motor, set to debut at the SEMA show next week. Yep, the supercharged, 6.2-liter heart of the ZR1 can now be ordered without the Corvette wrapper, ready to drop into the bare engine bay of your choice. You get a complete engine including the ignition system, supercharger assembly, exhaust manifolds, dry-sump oil pan and provisions for the intercooler's liquid cooling system — pretty much everything in this gorgeous exploded LS9 view except the 'Vette engine cover. Pricing isn't mentioned, but considering an LS7 crate engine runs about $14k, figure well north of there. Plus a home-built Lamborghini to put it in, of course. Full release below the jump." High-rpm-validated lightweight reciprocating parts, including titanium intake valves, are used, along with high-flow cylinder heads that draw the charge forced on them by a sixth-generation supercharger. A new, four-lobe rotor design delivers greater power at the low end and sustains it longer through the rpm band for broad, on-demand power, whether off-idle or at speed. A dual-brick charge cooler is integrated on a unique manifold system that mounts the "blower" in the engine's valley, with charge cooler on top.

GMPP's LS9 crate engine assembly comes fully dressed, including the ignition system, supercharger assembly, exhaust manifolds and more. It also includes the production dry-sump oil pan and provisions for the charge cooler's liquid cooling system. Builders will need an external oil tank, external coolant tank (for the charge cooler) and an ECU/wire harness.

I wonder what the cost of this will be... Attachment 9993

$20,000+-

I want one
Don't know where I want to put it but I want one.

The GMPP LS7 crate engine can be had for under $12,000 right now. Hopefully, the LS9 won't cost too much more.
I think future 5th Gen Camaro owners would be best off just leaving the car stock. But, if you want more power, I think adding 8-10lbs boost to the existing LS3 with conservative timing/tune and methanol will be a more cost effective solution than an entire LS9 crate engine swap.

Unless you can sell the OEM LS3 to offset the cost of the LS9.
hhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Cram that thing under the hood of a miata -- just for fun.

I wonder if it will fit in my Yaris!

From what I understand that motor has a price tag of $30,000! I quess we will see soon. Jeff

So how much would a Z-28 LS9 cost $58,000 to $65,000... that would be out of my price range!!

Repost...I put this up two days ago in the engine section

$10,000 wouldn't touch that motor!

The cost to actually put the LS9 in a Camaro would easily eclipse the price of the Camaro itself. It would be cool, but it's just not practical. The best application in my opinion for this motor is in the Factory Five GTM. It is already based on the Corvette drivetrain and this would propel it into the record books.


http://www.factoryfive.com/gtm/galle...ges/H1-red.jpg
http://www.factoryfive.com/gtmhome.html