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Dropspeed 07-01-2013 07:56 AM

My 1LE on Scales: 3823lbs
 
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I was at Gingerman yesterday and put my 1LE on the scales: 3823Lbs

Details:
  • 1SS/1LE: NPP Exhaust, BA stereo, B/U camera are the only options
  • 3/4 tank of gas
  • All stock: wheels, tires, suspension, battery...ect.
  • All badges have been removed (1-2 lbs??) and floor mats were out...all stock items in the trunk were left in.
-Matt

Camaro_Corvette 07-01-2013 08:06 AM

Great, I'll weigh my 2SS this week when it hits 3/4's of a tank of gas and see what the difference is. :D

tramtwo 07-01-2013 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dropspeed (Post 6737625)
I was at Gingerman yesterday and put my 1LE on the scales: 3823Lbs

Details:
  • 1SS/1LE: NPP Exhaust, BA stereo, B/U camera are the only options
  • 3/4 tank of gas
  • All stock: wheels, tires, suspension, battery...ect.
  • All badges have been removed (1-2 lbs??) and floor mats were out...all stock items in the trunk were left in.
-Matt

Damn that is 44 pounds lighter than my 3867 invoiced weight on this 2SS and you have 3/4 of a tank of fuel!! :frusty:

Dropspeed 07-01-2013 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by tramtwo (Post 6737864)
Damn that is 44 pounds lighter than my 3867 invoiced weight on this 2SS and you have 3/4 of a tank of fuel!! :frusty:

I have no sunroof, no leather, no HIDs......not sure what those equal?

Not that it matters but I do have a clear bra on it so that may balance out the weight from removing the badges :)

KlugSS 07-01-2013 10:16 AM

Very cool! I need to weigh mine now. I have zero options, no splitter, and GM Performance track exhaust. Winder if I can get it to 36xx with as little as gas as possible.

Dropspeed 07-01-2013 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by KlugSS (Post 6738049)
Very cool! I need to weigh mine now. I have zero options, no splitter, and GM Performance track exhaust. Winder if I can get it to 36xx with as little as gas as possible.

Why no splitter?

KlugSS 07-01-2013 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dropspeed (Post 6738052)
Why no splitter?

Don't care for it. So I never put it on.

tramtwo 07-01-2013 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by KlugSS (Post 6738061)
Don't care for it. So I never put it on.

Head over to the market place, your unused new splitter will sell in about an hour if it is fairly priced. New they list for $750. :thumb:

1leNPP 07-01-2013 12:16 PM

If the 1SS would have came with manual seats I bet the car would be under 3800 lbs.

SUX2BU 07-01-2013 02:33 PM

Must be nice, my car completely stock was about 4,150 lbs with 3/4 of a tank. Ginger is a big girl.

1BadAction 07-01-2013 02:57 PM

How much does the NPP add? My car is 1LE and 1SS. No other options.

CamaroTom 07-01-2013 05:30 PM

I think the NPP is lighter than the exhaust it replaces.

2cnd chance 07-01-2013 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dropspeed (Post 6737625)
I was at Gingerman yesterday and put my 1LE on the scales: 3823Lbs

Details:
  • 1SS/1LE: NPP Exhaust, BA stereo, B/U camera are the only options
  • 3/4 tank of gas
  • All stock: wheels, tires, suspension, battery...ect.
  • All badges have been removed (1-2 lbs??) and floor mats were out...all stock items in the trunk were left in.
-Matt


Any ideas why the passenger front is so much heavier (23 lbs) than the drivers front?

2cnd chance 07-01-2013 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 1LEMayhem (Post 6739576)
I think the NPP is lighter than the exhaust it replaces.

That's what I've heard, however no info.

Nutro 07-01-2013 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 2cnd chance (Post 6739590)
Any ideas why the passenger front is so much heavier (23 lbs) than the drivers front?

I'm guessing larger airbag, ABS controls, ECU, wiring etc

SUX2BU 07-01-2013 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 2cnd chance (Post 6739590)
Any ideas why the passenger front is so much heavier (23 lbs) than the drivers front?

A 2% variance is no big deal. You measure another car and it might go the other way.

2cnd chance 07-01-2013 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Nutro (Post 6739844)
I'm guessing larger airbag, ABS controls, ECU, wiring etc

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Originally Posted by SUX2BU (Post 6739860)
A 2% variance is no big deal. You measure another car and it might go the other way.

Thanks. Just wondering what the 23 lbs would be. Usually the drivers front is heavier in most cars. Isn't washer bottle drivers right?

toehead93 07-01-2013 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tramtwo (Post 6737864)
Damn that is 44 pounds lighter than my 3867 invoiced weight on this 2SS and you have 3/4 of a tank of fuel!! :frusty:

What do you mean by invoiced weight? I'm not familiar with the term but if it is the same as the curb weight then it is calculated with a full tank of gas. Which would be about 35lbs so you'd be just 10lbs off, not 44lbs.

tramtwo 07-01-2013 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by toehead93 (Post 6740619)
What do you mean by invoiced weight? I'm not familiar with the term but if it is the same as the curb weight then it is calculated with a full tank of gas. Which would be about 35lbs so you'd be just 10lbs off, not 44lbs.


On my invoice there was a weight for shipping purposes...

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/g...-25-41_324.jpg

KlugSS 07-16-2013 11:09 PM

Mine weighed in at 3740 with half a tank roughly 10 gallons.
1SS with GM Track Axle Back

I never was able to get pictures but hopefully soon I will throw it on the scales again with less fuel and get my 36xx pound weight.

Dropspeed 07-17-2013 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by KlugSS (Post 6786908)
Mine weighed in at 3740 with half a tank roughly 10 gallons.
1SS with GM Track Axle Back

I never was able to get pictures but hopefully soon I will throw it on the scales again with less fuel and get my 36xx pound weight.

So lets say my 3/4 tank had 4 more gallons at about 6lbs per. Tht would put me just under 3800. I can't beleive the NPP weighs 60lbs more than the GM track back.

Did you weigh the car with the stock exhaust on it? Any options on the car at all? What kind of scales were used?

Thanks,
Matt

Phorecyte 07-17-2013 07:40 AM

I used to owe a Genesis 3.8 Coupe, which before looking into the camaro 1LE, I thought had to be significantly lighter and thus have a performance advantage. I even had the Track model. weighed in at 36xx i wanna say. But it was stock, 2012, so 306hp. Given the difference in weight and HP, the 1LE shits all over the Gen in straight line and corners. For everyone saying their 1LE weighs too much, my lighter, "more nimble" asian vehicle never pulled a G on the skidpad, ever. It under steered more, the power steering was not very helpful(very heavy steering wheel movement), and even the turning radius cant compare to the 1LE. If anything, going from a Gen coupe to a 1LE, There is wayyy less understeer, engine power and response are no comparison either. Sometimes I feel like Im driving a car lighter than my Gen was. As much as everyone complains about the quality of GM parts, the Gen coupe won so many different accolades and still can't come close to to the 1LE, even ruling out power and just accounting for the handling department.

In particular, the traction control made the car almost annoying to drive around town. Anytime I needed to step on it, the TC literally would cut power momentarily. IMHO, this is a safety concern, bc you never know when you NEED wheel spin or to whip the tail end around. One last bit, for everyone who thinks hyundai parts and vehicles are made with quality, my gen coupe had a laundry list of issues from a brand new car. Oil leak after oil leak yielded these repairs: Replaced both head gaskets, the entire head, the throttle body control system, the steering angle sensor, TC light would stay on(they said it was related to Steering angle sensor), the heater had issues... Total POS. Havent had a single issue with my 1LE, and couldn't be happier. Alot of the weight on a camaro has to do with the frame of the car though, gets 5 stars in all 4 categories, front, back, side, and rollover.

gajagfan 07-17-2013 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by KlugSS (Post 6738061)
Don't care for it. So I never put it on.

It is certainly up to you, and I am not trying to get in your business, but I was under the impression that front splitter was a big part of the handling of this car. Does that not make it worth putting on? I ask in case you or others have heard different and the splitter is only cosmetic, and does not figure in the handling.

KlugSS 07-17-2013 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dropspeed (Post 6787427)
So lets say my 3/4 tank had 4 more gallons at about 6lbs per. Tht would put me just under 3800. I can't beleive the NPP weighs 60lbs more than the GM track back.

Did you weigh the car with the stock exhaust on it? Any options on the car at all? What kind of scales were used?

Thanks,
Matt

I never weighed 100% stock. The car does not have a single option. The scales I used here probably aren't the best but have always been real close but in the next couple weeks I will be putting it on some real nice ones that I know are accurate. I will take a picture and everything to confirm it. Really hoping to get a 36xx.

TLSTWIN 07-17-2013 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dropspeed (Post 6737625)
I was at Gingerman yesterday and put my 1LE on the scales: 3823Lbs

Details:
  • 1SS/1LE: NPP Exhaust, BA stereo, B/U camera are the only options
  • 3/4 tank of gas
  • All stock: wheels, tires, suspension, battery...ect.
  • All badges have been removed (1-2 lbs??) and floor mats were out...all stock items in the trunk were left in.
-Matt

Interesting, I never new that was there. I will have to check that out.

What did it cost if anything? and who did you talk to to get it on there?

dixonk 08-25-2013 12:29 AM

Just weighed my 2SS 1LE today. Bone stock from the factory with 1/2 tank of gas was 3860. No sunroof and no RS package. Only Nav.

SUKXOST 08-25-2013 07:02 AM

Don't take weights very seriously(especially if you use a large truck scale). I weighed my 1LE with 1/4 tank of fuel in VA and it was 3815. After moving to SC I had to weigh it again in SC and it was 3942(again with a 1/4 tank).

That is a difference of 127lbs with an identical car and fuel level.

The scale in VA had a calibration sheet posted but it was almost 3 months old. The SC scaled guy said thier was recalibrated "just a couple weeks ago".

Dropspeed 08-25-2013 07:24 AM

Mine was on a set of race scales. Truck scales do not work as the are often not calibrate for months or years at a time.

SUKXOST 08-25-2013 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dropspeed (Post 6938623)
Mine was on a set of race scales. Truck scales do not work as the are often not calibrate for months or years at a time.

I noticed that....yours has to be pretty accurate.

SUKXOST 08-25-2013 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dropspeed (Post 6737625)
I was at Gingerman yesterday and put my 1LE on the scales: 3823Lbs

Details:
  • 1SS/1LE: NPP Exhaust, BA stereo, B/U camera are the only options
  • 3/4 tank of gas
  • All stock: wheels, tires, suspension, battery...ect.
  • All badges have been removed (1-2 lbs??) and floor mats were out...all stock items in the trunk were left in.
-Matt

Hey OP...in case you were wondering......the exact Center of Balance of YOUR car is 90.67" from the very front of your car.

Pro Stock John 08-25-2013 08:54 PM

I might be at 3700 even now, every bit counts.

http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps1fe1645f.jpg

Dropspeed 08-26-2013 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John (Post 6940721)
I might be at 3700 even now, every bit counts.

http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps1fe1645f.jpg

Details on how you got there! Thanks

Pro Stock John 08-26-2013 11:36 AM

Longtubes, cats
18's on back (I now have them up front)
aftermarket stall converter (I think 9 lbs lighter than stock)
Removed engine cover

I can't remember if I weighed before I swapped out the stock mufflers for the Morosos, but I think the weight difference is over 16 lbs EACH.

I also just swapped on 18's, and they are 11 lbs ligher each.

I'm going to go back and weigh when I have a chance.

I found an example where a guy's L99 was 3860 with 1/2 tank of gas, so 120 lbs out. If you look at Doc's thread you'll see that full exhaust will drop quite a bit of weight.

I think I'll be 3690 based on the mufflers and 18's up front, and I'll take out the junk in the trunk.

Mgizzle 08-26-2013 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KlugSS (Post 6738049)
Very cool! I need to weigh mine now. I have zero options, no splitter, and GM Performance track exhaust. Winder if I can get it to 36xx with as little as gas as possible.

That splitter helps man, believe it or not. Plus it looks A M A Z I N G!!!

Matt that weight makes sense and the NPP is about 10lbs lighter than the stock exhaust. I saw someone compare weights on the forum once. Our cars are curb at 3875 I think. You still won't catch me riding over half a tank, with floor mats, with engine cover, with anything in the glove box or center console, with the inflator kit and shoes that resemble anything but those early waffle made nikes (~3750) :lol: You never know when those stangs are creepin' up on you round da D man!:paddle:

WHAMMO 08-30-2013 12:57 AM

mine was 3780 with 1/4 tank...

dixonk 08-30-2013 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by WHAMMO (Post 6961654)
mine was 3780 with 1/4 tank...

What is your setup?

WHAMMO 08-30-2013 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dixonk (Post 6962176)
What is your setup?

Setup is 1SS, NPP, rear view Cam. Thats it. I was happy to be under 3800..

dixonk 08-30-2013 11:49 AM

Hmm didn't know there was that much of a difference between the 1SS and 2SS. I only have rear view cam and nav on mine. No NPP though.

Banshee 08-30-2013 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dixonk (Post 6962561)
Hmm didn't know there was that much of a difference between the 1SS and 2SS. I only have rear view cam and nav on mine. No NPP though.

Most of your weight comes from weight of headlights, leather, gauge package, Boston Acoustics system, heaters in seats..

dixonk 08-30-2013 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Banshee (Post 6962605)
Most of your weight comes from weight of headlights, leather, gauge package, Boston Acoustics system, heaters in seats..

I took the standard halogen headlights. Would be interesting to see weight difference in leather vs cloth and standard vs BA sound system


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