Originally Posted by So Cal Camaro (Post 5849005)

This isn't my first venture into driving cars and setting them up the way I want them, I don't care for the stretched tire and given the way I set this up with the Nitto's, it'll be the way I want it...stop worrying about what I'm doing...and worry about your own car's set up....

Originally Posted by Norm Peterson (Post 5850555)

Don't undervalue what autocrossing demands or what it can make evident simply because of the relatively low speeds involved. It is a VERY intense activity.

You might even notice the 1" more at auto-X, because that form of motorsports is much more about transient handling (where things like turn-in response matter the most) than running out on the big track is.


FWIW, even in fairly hard street driving it's possible to notice a 1" wheel width difference with the tire size held constant (or a 20mm difference in tire width on the same wheels) if you have the right sequence and spacing of corners and have some idea what to "feel" for.

Maybe almost 50 years of driving with an acknowledged "corner-carver" mindset really does count as applicable seat time. Maybe the difference in feel doesn't matter as much to everyone.


Norm

Originally Posted by Brian 1LE SS (Post 5851870)

Thank you for this post. Most people that make comments about dodging cones in a parking lot have never autox or are diehard road racers.
If a car has handling issues good or bad an autox will bring it out in a car. You dont need triple digit speeds to know how a car will handle.

Originally Posted by So Cal Camaro (Post 5851917)

Here is an example of that...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB-KBaevPqM

Originally Posted by So Cal Camaro (Post 5852019)

I watched it happen...it is still painful to watch as we still autocross there regularly...

Originally Posted by Mgizzle (Post 5850127)

But to say stock sucks without having any basis, data, experience with it prior to your modifications. It is like saying brownies taste bad and should be out of vanilla when you never tried one in the first place.

They also stated they put heavy duty hubs to handle higher loads. Going more grip by either Tire size or compound could wreck havoc on other parts.

Originally Posted by So Cal Camaro (Post 5851917)

Here is an example of that...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB-KBaevPqM

Originally Posted by Synner (Post 5852727)

Believe it or not people have raced before the 1LE came into existence. It won't be breaking the laws of physics. Stock sucks, it's filled with compromise. Most drivers won't ever find the true limits of the car, only their driving. It doesn't mean stock doesn't suck, it means they're not good behind the wheel.

And if you're scared of grip don't race a car. More of the paranoia again. It sounds like you've never raced anything in your life. Grip wreaking havoc on a race car? Really? Racing is hard on parts, don't be scared.