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Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 05-12-2014, 04:12 PM
Replies: 38
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Posted By Orbit Orange
At the right price and the right rate you can...

At the right price and the right rate you can live with a few compromises. Notice I say a few. Too many and it isn't worth it but everyone is different. This would be a straight buy, no trade. I...
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 05-12-2014, 04:04 PM
Replies: 38
Views: 6,941
Posted By Orbit Orange
Trade-In? Doc fees? Straight buy or finance...

Trade-In?
Doc fees?
Straight buy or finance and interest rate if I may ask?

Thank you.
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 05-12-2014, 04:03 PM
Replies: 38
Views: 6,941
Posted By Orbit Orange
Thank you but no thank you. I do not require...

Thank you but no thank you. I do not require your advice right now I can manage my finances quite nicely and have been doing so for years. If everyone went by your "rule" new car purchases in the...
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 05-12-2014, 12:09 PM
Replies: 38
Views: 6,941
Posted By Orbit Orange
Thanks for all the advice so far. I think I will...

Thanks for all the advice so far. I think I will ask around and if I hear a NO, its no big deal. You can't find out until you ask.

As for the 20% rule, yes that has no relevance in this...
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 05-11-2014, 03:57 PM
Replies: 38
Views: 6,941
Posted By Orbit Orange
Yes I would do so. I pretty much go on "agreed...

Yes I would do so. I pretty much go on "agreed upon price". This is the price I want to negotiate before ANY rebates, bonus cash, USAA rebate, GM card points, taxes, title and license or any DOC...
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 05-11-2014, 03:42 PM
Replies: 38
Views: 6,941
Posted By Orbit Orange
Generally dealers won't show you invoice price,...

Generally dealers won't show you invoice price, they are by law required to show MSRP. Even if they show you their "invoice" price it probably actually isn't. Whether or not $10K off of a MSRP of...
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 05-11-2014, 02:45 PM
Replies: 38
Views: 6,941
Posted By Orbit Orange
You really can't beat 0%, its free money, a NO...

You really can't beat 0%, its free money, a NO interest loan.

To even out that $3K rebate on a 72 month loan I'd have to land a 1.9% or lower loan at 72 months on a near $50K loan with not much...
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 05-11-2014, 02:11 PM
Replies: 38
Views: 6,941
Posted By Orbit Orange
Going with the 0%/72 mos. would negate the $3K in...

Going with the 0%/72 mos. would negate the $3K in rebates. And yes I do plan on making some contacts I just didn't know if they would be so insulted thinking I'm lowballing them (which I may be)...
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 05-11-2014, 11:54 AM
Replies: 38
Views: 6,941
Posted By Orbit Orange
Question Any chance to get $10K off sticker on leftover '13 ZL1's?

What do you all think? There seems to be 0%/72 mos. until 6/2 but I would need to have the price around 50 to 51K to pull the trigger. I can find about 50 or so on a search, do you think any dealer...
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 04-04-2012, 09:28 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 3,867
Posted By Orbit Orange
Thanks to those who have responded. I'm guessing...

Thanks to those who have responded. I'm guessing with the 6th gen Camaro due out as a 2016 MY in 2015 sometime, that we will have seen what it is going to look like (at least in camo) by early 2014....
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 04-04-2012, 09:07 AM
Replies: 12
Views: 3,867
Posted By Orbit Orange
Question '12 ZL1 prices in Spring '14?

OK, I know this is an odd question seeing ZL1's are just starting to get into the hands of their "first" owners. I cannot afford a $60K vehicle so my question is what do you think the market price...
Forum: Camaro 1LE Forum 10-27-2011, 04:16 PM
Replies: 259
Views: 55,212
Posted By Orbit Orange
I like the red/matte black look but it seems...

I like the red/matte black look but it seems incomplete in the back with the chrome exhaust tips and chrome taillight surrounds. To complete the look the surrounds need to be matte black and the...
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 09-10-2011, 09:22 PM
Replies: 224
Views: 24,709
Posted By Orbit Orange
I'm with Dragoneye, when I open the hood I like...

I'm with Dragoneye, when I open the hood I like to see the engine/mechanicals, not when I open the hood I see .... a second hood. All the plastic covers over everything is redundancy, that is what...
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 09-09-2011, 04:15 PM
Replies: 224
Views: 24,709
Posted By Orbit Orange
I hate to toot my own horn (aw Hell I'll do it...

I hate to toot my own horn (aw Hell I'll do it anyway) ;)

Couldn't resist. :D
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 08-03-2011, 12:17 AM
Replies: 100
Views: 11,797
Posted By Orbit Orange
Best line in the thread yet. I was waiting from...

Best line in the thread yet. I was waiting from the first comment to see who would bring this one out. Val Kilmer as Doc Holiday in Tombstone FTW. :)
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 07-13-2011, 09:18 AM
Replies: 224
Views: 24,709
Posted By Orbit Orange
I'm going with a few others who said 575 HP. ...

I'm going with a few others who said 575 HP.

Think about the statement for a second. North of 570 HP. If it were 580 something they would have said north of 580 HP, if it were 590 something they...
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 06-28-2011, 08:07 AM
Replies: 56
Views: 7,646
Posted By Orbit Orange
You are not the only one. If Ford drops an auto...

You are not the only one. If Ford drops an auto in the upcoming GT500 and it outpowers the ZL1, I would seriously consider it. I'd be buying either used anyway after a model year or 2. So not for...
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 06-27-2011, 09:36 PM
Replies: 56
Views: 7,646
Posted By Orbit Orange
Wow, I would be shocked. Didn't know ford had an...

Wow, I would be shocked. Didn't know ford had an auto tranny that could take that kind of power and torque. Where have you heard the rumors?



A good attitude to have, to each their own.
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 06-27-2011, 03:07 PM
Replies: 56
Views: 7,646
Posted By Orbit Orange
It does have more cubes translating into higher...

It does have more cubes translating into higher possible torque and Ford will never sell me a GT500 because I'm an automatic guy.

BUT... Don't count out this possible turbo V8. You can always up...
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 06-27-2011, 01:55 PM
Replies: 56
Views: 7,646
Posted By Orbit Orange
How about this from today? ...

How about this from today?

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2011/06/2013-shelby-gt500-to-get-650-hp-turbocharged-v8.html

650 HP from a turbo 5.8 liter??? They appear to be throwing down the...
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 06-26-2011, 12:02 AM
Replies: 89
Views: 10,818
Posted By Orbit Orange
I see you are from Southern Illinois, so am I. ...

I see you are from Southern Illinois, so am I. What dealership are you talking about? I'd love to swing by that dealership and get this in writing. ;)
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 06-25-2011, 06:02 PM
Replies: 89
Views: 10,818
Posted By Orbit Orange
CTS-V coupe has for both auto and manual. It is...

CTS-V coupe has for both auto and manual. It is a pretty good bet that ZL1 will have it as well. Automatic for sure, manual could have a slight chance but I would doubt it. Figure it will be...
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 06-25-2011, 04:35 PM
Replies: 89
Views: 10,818
Posted By Orbit Orange
The dealers know diddly-squat. Here's what...

The dealers know diddly-squat.

Here's what you do. Let them put their money where their mouth is. Contact this dealer and tell him you'll purchase the ZL1 for $5K over MSRP if the base price MSRP...
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 06-12-2011, 08:28 AM
Replies: 336
Views: 65,328
Posted By Orbit Orange
Good for GM listening to the customer with the...

Good for GM listening to the customer with the automatic. Glad I registered and voted in the auto option thread. ZL1 automatic is now on my short list of future vehicles. It will be a little...
Forum: 5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions 02-16-2011, 03:54 PM
Replies: 82
Views: 32,637
Posted By Orbit Orange
I always have a chuckle when they claim, "Most...

I always have a chuckle when they claim, "Most Popular Color". They mean "Most PRODUCED Color". If individuals actually got to pick their color over buying what was on the lot (yes I know some...
Forum: 5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions 02-15-2011, 04:20 PM
Replies: 90
Views: 22,862
Posted By Orbit Orange
At the risk of being unpopular here amongst...

At the risk of being unpopular here amongst Camaro faithful how about GM comes out with a new Zeta vehicle every six months to try to capture a new segment of the market instead of going after the...
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 02-12-2011, 06:14 PM
Replies: 100
Views: 18,047
Posted By Orbit Orange
I think you guys hit the nail on the head. I'm...

I think you guys hit the nail on the head. I'm not sure where the 100 lbs. in wheels came from. 100 pounds of overall weight seems more legitimate. That 7 pound wheel would have to be made of...
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 02-12-2011, 08:40 AM
Replies: 100
Views: 18,047
Posted By Orbit Orange
25 pounds per wheel????? I missed that info. I...

25 pounds per wheel????? I missed that info. I need to check that out if true.
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 02-12-2011, 08:35 AM
Replies: 1,137
Views: 113,525
Posted By Orbit Orange
Hey as long as we are asking for an automatic,...

Hey as long as we are asking for an automatic, why not ask GM to put a little more aggressive converter in there instead of the usual loose and lazy ones for us 1/4 mile guys. :D
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 02-11-2011, 06:58 AM
Replies: 1,137
Views: 113,525
Posted By Orbit Orange
Thanks for the welcome. I've lurked for quite...

Thanks for the welcome. I've lurked for quite some time while being more active on some GTO and G8 sites. I would say that an auto ZL1 would be in ADDITION to the cars in my sig. :D

I have...
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