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Forum: 2016+ Camaro: 6th Gen Camaro general forum 07-01-2019, 02:58 PM
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Posted By Doc
Yeah, the big problem nobody seems to be...

Yeah, the big problem nobody seems to be addressing, or they're just not willing to talk about it, is the fact that nothing is free. Where is all this electricity going to come from? They're adding...
Forum: 2016+ Camaro: 6th Gen Camaro general forum 06-26-2019, 06:37 PM
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Posted By Doc
Thank you, but on this post you missed the point....

Thank you, but on this post you missed the point. It isn't just about performance. The demographic you reach once you go past $40k is a different market than the fanboy/muscle car/performance...
Forum: 2016+ Camaro: 6th Gen Camaro general forum 06-26-2019, 01:01 PM
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Posted By Doc
Sadly, this was what I feared was coming but...

Sadly, this was what I feared was coming but hoping wasn't. When GM pulled Al O out of being in charge of the Camaro division and put a parts and accessories guy in charge, that was rather telling. ...
Forum: 2016+ Camaro: 6th Gen Camaro general forum 04-26-2019, 10:52 PM
Replies: 76
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Posted By Doc
It seems to be considered several different...

It seems to be considered several different things, but it's actually a high performance sports GT. Traditionally, a sports car was a two-seater with an emphasis on handling as much as power. In...
Forum: 2016+ Camaro: 6th Gen Camaro general forum 03-15-2019, 07:33 PM
Replies: 231
Views: 15,980
Posted By Doc
I realized after a comment I had made, as to who...

I realized after a comment I had made, as to who this car was aimed at that I wouldn't buy it myself, I began to wonder why and why not? My conclusion was that it was just a bit too soft as far as...
Forum: 2016+ Camaro: 6th Gen Camaro general forum 03-14-2019, 10:18 AM
Replies: 231
Views: 15,980
Posted By Doc
I have to agree about AWD. I don't see how that...

I have to agree about AWD. I don't see how that would be doable as a standard feature at the $25k price point. In addition, not everyone needs or wants it so I'd make it possibly as an option. My...
Forum: 2016+ Camaro: 6th Gen Camaro general forum 03-13-2019, 09:35 AM
Replies: 231
Views: 15,980
Posted By Doc
Yeah I get the same vibe from those kinds of...

Yeah I get the same vibe from those kinds of designs. Why people want to be inside something that looks like this is beyond me.

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When I first saw the FNR Concept, Alien was the first...
Forum: 2016+ Camaro: 6th Gen Camaro general forum 03-13-2019, 09:15 AM
Replies: 231
Views: 15,980
Posted By Doc
GM has a history of doing odd things that later...

GM has a history of doing odd things that later bite them in the butt. Chevelles were popular too. They used to dominate the passenger car market but now they're getting out of the passenger car...
Forum: 2016+ Camaro: 6th Gen Camaro general forum 03-12-2019, 11:37 PM
Replies: 231
Views: 15,980
Posted By Doc
That ad is from 1968, and by then things had...

That ad is from 1968, and by then things had changed quickly. Remember this was back when they updated models every year. Here's a couple of ads from '67 that show the original marketing and price...
Forum: 2016+ Camaro: 6th Gen Camaro general forum 03-11-2019, 10:39 PM
Replies: 231
Views: 15,980
Posted By Doc
You're making the mistake of thinking of yourself...

You're making the mistake of thinking of yourself and what you want, which is not what this thread is about. I've been advocating them to reinvent the pony car as an ADD to the Camaro. I've always...
Forum: 2016+ Camaro: 6th Gen Camaro general forum 03-11-2019, 05:07 PM
Replies: 231
Views: 15,980
Posted By Doc
Yes that's the Vision Coupe. If what you...

Yes that's the Vision Coupe.

If what you think is a good look is the Camry SE, then we're on complete opposite sides of the fence as to what is desirable.

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If that's the direction...
Forum: 2016+ Camaro: 6th Gen Camaro general forum 03-11-2019, 03:03 PM
Replies: 231
Views: 15,980
Posted By Doc
The rendering is fine. The only thing that is...

The rendering is fine. The only thing that is S-H-I-T and of even less value, is your opinion. Nothing positive, nothing constructive. Absolutely no value whatsoever. If that's all you've got to...
Forum: 2016+ Camaro: 6th Gen Camaro general forum 03-11-2019, 03:00 PM
Replies: 231
Views: 15,980
Posted By Doc
The problem with the Catera was it was the wrong...

The problem with the Catera was it was the wrong car, from the wrong company, aimed at the wrong market. It was also bland and boring as hell.

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How many teens or young 20's dream...
Forum: 2016+ Camaro: 6th Gen Camaro general forum 03-11-2019, 12:47 PM
Replies: 231
Views: 15,980
Posted By Doc
Nobody is actually making a pony car right now. ...

Nobody is actually making a pony car right now. They're all swinging for the fences with high performance GT's which, while great for the enthusiasts that can afford them, that's clearly not a huge...
Forum: 2016+ Camaro: 6th Gen Camaro general forum 03-11-2019, 10:54 AM
Replies: 231
Views: 15,980
Posted By Doc
Yeah? Guess which car is outselling the Camaro. ...

Yeah? Guess which car is outselling the Camaro. If you can do more than look at pictures, and you read what I've posted in this thread, guess who my concept is aimed at? (Hint: It isn't you). If a...
Forum: 2016+ Camaro: 6th Gen Camaro general forum 03-10-2019, 07:59 PM
Replies: 231
Views: 15,980
Posted By Doc
My concept doesn't look like a sports car because...

My concept doesn't look like a sports car because it's not supposed to. It's a pony car, not a sports car (hence the title of the thread).

In addition to what you are calling "evolved", they've...
Forum: 2016+ Camaro: 6th Gen Camaro general forum 03-10-2019, 12:28 PM
Replies: 231
Views: 15,980
Posted By Doc
I remember that too. They were trying to give...

I remember that too. They were trying to give cars a jet aircraft look and feel, which included body side styles that appeared to lift the car off the ground. It was all about a look of forward...
Forum: 2016+ Camaro: 6th Gen Camaro general forum 03-10-2019, 03:29 AM
Replies: 231
Views: 15,980
Posted By Doc
I always find it interesting to see how people...

I always find it interesting to see how people 'see' styles and elements from cars of the past but when you bring up actual images, it's quite different from what they seem to remember. I think...
Forum: 2016+ Camaro: 6th Gen Camaro general forum 03-08-2019, 02:56 AM
Replies: 231
Views: 15,980
Posted By Doc
You need to upgrade to a better brand of Scotch....

You need to upgrade to a better brand of Scotch. :cool:
Forum: 2016+ Camaro: 6th Gen Camaro general forum 03-07-2019, 11:20 PM
Replies: 231
Views: 15,980
Posted By Doc
Thank you! I think the upper grille opening...

Thank you! I think the upper grille opening would be adequate, as most of the air is going to come from the lower grille area. The SS mods are already in the works (see below).

They really...
Forum: 2016+ Camaro: 6th Gen Camaro general forum 03-07-2019, 03:06 AM
Replies: 231
Views: 15,980
Posted By Doc
I could but if I did that, it would put the top...

I could but if I did that, it would put the top line even with the top of the wheel well opening, and that style is from the '69 Camaro. I've been conscientiously avoiding that year as that was the...
Forum: 2016+ Camaro: 6th Gen Camaro general forum 03-06-2019, 07:43 PM
Replies: 231
Views: 15,980
Posted By Doc
Curves are nice, but I felt that the previous...

Curves are nice, but I felt that the previous version was too soft as a result. This version has a LOT of changes in many areas. Took some of the 'soft' out and gave it a bit more aggressive...
Forum: 2016+ Camaro: 6th Gen Camaro general forum 03-04-2019, 02:15 PM
Replies: 231
Views: 15,980
Posted By Doc
Added more curve on the top of the front fenders...

Added more curve on the top of the front fenders which you can see clearly in the second pic. Lots of small refinements in many different places. Revised the front DRLs; didn't like they way they...
Forum: 2016+ Camaro: 6th Gen Camaro general forum 03-03-2019, 11:05 AM
Replies: 231
Views: 15,980
Posted By Doc
The female market is one that shouldn't be...

The female market is one that shouldn't be under-estimated. That market segment is huge and it would be great if a simple color or two would bring in a percentage of that customer base.


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Forum: 2016+ Camaro: 6th Gen Camaro general forum 03-02-2019, 04:32 AM
Replies: 231
Views: 15,980
Posted By Doc
More work on the front and some detail work. ...

More work on the front and some detail work. Here are a few shots in a different environment with some different colors.

When the Camaro first came out, it was available in a champagne beige...
Forum: 2016+ Camaro: 6th Gen Camaro general forum 03-01-2019, 06:44 PM
Replies: 231
Views: 15,980
Posted By Doc
Working on refinements to the front. Moved up...

Working on refinements to the front. Moved up the DRLs from the front seam to below the headlights. Moved the front body seam up from below to the top of the orange running/signal lights. Small...
Forum: 2016+ Camaro: 6th Gen Camaro general forum 03-01-2019, 03:28 AM
Replies: 231
Views: 15,980
Posted By Doc
Thank you! Thank you very much! It's...

Thank you!



Thank you very much! It's truly appreciated. :)



Thank you for the feedback. The shape of the C pillar of the original Mustang and then the Camaro, pretty much set the...
Forum: 2016+ Camaro: 6th Gen Camaro general forum 02-28-2019, 04:52 PM
Replies: 231
Views: 15,980
Posted By Doc
Sorry to hear you were discouraged like that. ...

Sorry to hear you were discouraged like that. This is a tough crowd. They say they want something futuristic and not retro, but when you do that, they complain that it doesn't have "muscles",...
Forum: 2016+ Camaro: 6th Gen Camaro general forum 02-28-2019, 04:07 AM
Replies: 231
Views: 15,980
Posted By Doc
Been working on the front to try and break out of...

Been working on the front to try and break out of the 5th gen mold, but still keep it Camaro-ish. At the same time, I want it to feel like the front style belongs with the style of the back.

It's...
Forum: 2016+ Camaro: 6th Gen Camaro general forum 02-27-2019, 01:25 PM
Replies: 231
Views: 15,980
Posted By Doc
After working on this whole shape for awhile,...

After working on this whole shape for awhile, I've come to realize that I have two different cars welded together in the middle. The style of the back just doesn't match the style of the front. I...
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