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Originally Posted by GreenZLE

Thats exactly what I said. They dont and they wont in the foreseeable future.

I take quite a few trips requiring at least 1 refill on gas. No thanks to waiting for a recharge. Plenty of people are good with taking breaks and walking around or getting a meal and thats their business.

Having to plan on the car being on the home charger for hours to avoid the gas station even puttering on short trips still means the EV is down longer than the ICE for fueling/charging purposes. Plus, at home charging takes way way longer than pumping gas. The only crutch for that is having 480 3-ph ran to your house to power a 30KW charger.

Throttle house didnt run a HPDE event. There isnt an EV I know of that can do that for all kinds of reasons. I suspect by the end of the first 1/2 hour session, IF it made it to the end, it would be severely discharged and no longer competitive.

As you said, the government seems bent on forcing people into these cars and they're doing it under false pretenses. EV's arent going to save the world, they arent the green solution that the propaganda sells them to be, and they are not a practical replacement for people making long distance trips or engaging in HPDE.

For the most part we seem to be in violent agreement except for one thing. Outside of California, I’ve never said that the government is forcing people into EV. In fact, I most often argue the opposite. The manufacturers are forcing this and they started doing that before the current administration. The current administration is giving it a boost buy offering incentives, but for the most part, those incentives are saying “if the world is shifting to EV, we want to make sure they are built here, so we’ll provide incentives for the ones that are”.

As far as HPDE, a Tesla would not be my choice for an HPDE, but to say that they are not capable can be easily disproven. They can be capable. Again, wouldn’t be my choice. At least not yet. Remember, we are at the start of the transition to EV, just like in the 1980s we were at the start of the transition to fuel injection. We’ve progressed from throttle body to port to direct to direct + port and high pressure direct. Same way, EVs will progress from go fast in a straight line to HPDE capable to some HPDE focused models.