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Originally Posted by genxer
I disagree and think EV is well past the early adopters and doesn't need help. 3 and Y are into their mainstream. For several years, a lot of the easy new dollars went to Tesla stock. Wealthy Elites use investment as a tool toward their goals. Tesla will be fine if they screw up some models.
If they are worried about infrastructure, green investors are hype buying fools for not putting their $chips on Voltec.
Elite and wealthy circles taking prerogative away from the masses to push their values is the crux of this issue.
Recent polling that helps highlight differences has been going around: https://highlandcountypress.com/opin...-war#gsc.tab=0
quote: "To illustrate the scale of the gap between the elite 1 percent and the rest of the country, consider the elite 1 percent’s views on climate issues (and understand that these ideas are opposed by 63 percent to 83 percent of most Americans):
• 77 percent of the elite 1 percent would like to impose strict restrictions and rationing on the private use of gas, meat, and electricity.
• 72 percent of the elite 1 percent favor banning gas-powered vehicles.
• 69 percent of the elite 1 percent favor banning gas stoves.
• 58 percent of the elite 1 percent favor of banning sport utility vehicles.
• 55 percent of the elite 1 percent favor banning non-essential air travel.
• 53 percent of the elite 1 percent favor banning private air conditioning." |
First off, I’ll admit I’ve never heard of Voltec. I’d have to look into that before I could even hope to comment.
Most corporate benefits go into stock buybacks and pumping up brand values, that’s not unique to EV builders. Tesla is absolutely established, and maybe there’s a case for scaling back some of their subsidies, but they’re probably the biggest reason that EV charging infrastructure and tech is beginning to be competitive. Since they’ve recently opened up their network to nearly everyone, that’s tripled IIRC the non-Tesla charging network in a matter of weeks. I do think that’s something they should do considering the government assistance that they’ve had to develop this over the years. Creating this tech with the help of subsidies and then closing the door behind them was a big criticism I had of Tesla, so I’m glad to see that’s changing to some degree.
I’m not here to defend wealthy elites. Most of their stances are out of touch with reality and they can’t even relate to the average person, much less sympathize with their struggles. I don’t agree with many things that are being done, such as banning the sales of new ICE vehicles in the near future as California is currently planning to do. I don’t agree with prohibitively expensive carbon taxes when there’s no good alternative. Taxing the bejesus out of gas heating when it’s the best affordable option, especially for extremely cold climates, is asinine. I do feel that we need to increase the adoption rate of cleaner energy and transportation through incentives though, and this is where the issue changes more from helping an industry to helping with emissions. My preference would be to make the cleaner options more attractive than the alternatives by way of making them cheaper, not by making the alternatives unaffordable. The investment to speed up the changeover is seen by many to be worthwhile, but I’m not under the illusion that I can change anyone’s mind about that here.
US EV market share was just over 8% in Q4 of 2023. The highest ever, but that’s still moving along pretty slowly if we’re actually wanting to use this to help with emissions. In theory, streamlining tax credits for ease of redemption and limiting them to lower cost vehicles should help without continuing to lopsidedly assist the rich. Climate change isn’t seen as an immediate problem by the less wealthy, I completely understand that. It’s not like having to use a credit card to afford groceries, or scrounging to cover the house payment each month. Can’t be too worried about dying from climate problems when you’re already dead from starvation or lack of shelter. That doesn’t make it a bad thing to invest in when looking forward in my opinion. I believe, even if it’s not at the forefront of everyone’s mind, it is helpful for everyone to improve on carbon emissions.
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