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Old 08-28-2008, 03:04 PM   #114
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Originally Posted by bballr4567 View Post
I currently own a 00 Formula that I bought while I was deployed. It is a manual and it was the only way I was going to buy a sports car. I have never driven a Fbody manual prior to that but I had drove an auto previously about 2-3 times and that made my choice right then. I hadnt drove a manual in over 4 years by the time my midtour leave came around yet I could NOT wait to get in that car and have fun. Did I have to reteach myself how to drive a stick? Yes. Was it fun? HELL YES.

To me an auto robs you of most of the fun. Its just that connected feeling that you get when you know that you control the car and what its doing. The feeling of downshifting from say 5th to 3rd at 45ish and then letting all hell loose is one of a kind. With an auto you just mash the gas and go. Manual is totally different. Youve got to push in the clutch, move the shifter to the precise place for the right gear, start to rev match the engine to where YOU think the RPMs will be, then you disengage the clutch and just let all those damn horses loose.

People used to get the manual for MPG purposes but now that the auto is on the block with the same MPG, if not better, then I see more people getting the auto for the ease of driving.
did any of the autos you drove have a stall? or a (reverse) manual valve body? or a trans brake? swap a converter on an auto and its a whole new ball game.

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Originally Posted by Dragoneye View Post
I think when talking about the Auto v. manual, we need to keep in mind this is not your average pedal-only automatic anymore.

Suddenly, I think the fun-factor becomes subjective - because automatic drivers now have control over their shifting as well. Not in the exact same way...but control nontheless.


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Ehhhh Ive never drove a padel shifted car but I just dont think it could possibly be the same as driving a manual. The car wont let you downshift past a certain perimeter and so on. Just not what *I* want in a high HP car.

Id see that there is NO WAY the car will let you shift to say 3rd at 4500 RPMs and leave it there and then romp on it. Id have to drive the car to expierence it first.

PLUS, the wife cant drive a stick. She can move the car if she has to but cant get it going down the road.
paddle shifters arent the same as manual cars no, but where the "feeling" really pays off is the fact that when im coming up to a corner, i dont have to disengage the clutch, shift the gear over, then reengage. i just tap a button and im in a different gear. 4500 rpms is nothing, but the parameters you are talking about do exist, they are safety features to keep you from blowing out your motor. my 4l60e will let me shift into any gear at any rpm, its also tuned to do that, but i just have to be aware of my speed and engine rpms when i shift.

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Originally Posted by gtahvit View Post
I have no idea how this works on the Camaro/GM cars

But on the mazda3 I test drove with the autostick, (maybe not the same as paddles) it would shift into the next gear if you redlined for more than a second or two. Same thing with the down shift . If the engine started to bog, it would automatically down shift
a lot of cars equipped with autostick/tapshift/etc will do that as a safety feature so you arent redlining the motor and tearing something up, i hate it, cus a lot of times it will shift before the redline if you hold it for too long. if im out playing around, i dont want the car thinking for itself, i want it to do what i tell it to do...lol

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Originally Posted by Skyman 08 View Post
Like others have said, you have SOME control over the shifting, but not so much as to damage the engine or drivetrain... I am sure the Computer will prevent anything like that...
but with a true manual you are free to downshift from any gear at any rpm... just be prepared to pick up the pieces if you screw up and downshift the 6 speed and miss 2 gears.... It can and does happen!

click click.... BOOM!
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