[Coldpants]

Originally Posted by 2Muchmark

Hey all,

You may hate this thread, but I'm starting to HATE my Camaro!

Yes of course its a nice car and fun to drive etc, but I'm starting to hate driving it. Why?

The incredible, huge, ugly, disasterous oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, and our incredible dependancy to oil.



Oil has killed tens of thousands of poeple over the years (rigs, war, pollution) and destroyed countless animals, birds and fish. It's expensive, it pollutes, its ineffecient, and the US declares BS wars to get it while companies like BP make billions selling it to a nation addicted to it.

I''ve owned 10 Trans Ams and now a Camaro, and I have to tell you I'm feeling pretty GD guilty. GM was on the right track when they came out with the first electric car (the EV1) 10 years ago and thought the car must have sucked since they stopped building it, but then I saw this movie http://www.whokilledtheelectriccar.com/ and it changed my mind.

Sorry Camaro fans, but I'm just not excited about my purchase anymore. I was just looking at http://www.slpcamaro.com and read their super-charger package for $20,000. And for what? To ge a lousy 125 or so extra Horsepower? To burn more gas and oil? WTF!!! Electric can do the job much better, for much less, and without stinking up the planet.

The world is going insane and I unfortunately have contributed to it. I am really hoping that Electric cars finally make their way onto the market soon. I know the Nissan Leaf is around the corner and we can now order cars from Tesla, but we need more - alot more - to break away from the stranglehold that is big oil.

I bought a $40k+ Camaro, and I regret my purchase.

Electric cars depend on the grid for energy and in this country that energy comes from coal plants so converting to EV increases pollution not decreases. Gas powered cars can run on ethanol and if we did not have a corn lobby (corn ethanol is very inefficient) we would have plenty of cheep ethanol that is largely carbon neutral to run our cars. Brazil did this and with other changes has gained energy independence. Convert you Camaro to run on ethanol it should be a simple timing change but with ecm's I am sure it is more complicated than it used to be. Knee jerk reactions are never the solution to complex problems. If we stopped driving many people would die. If we convert to EV pollution levels would skyrocket. If we shutdown the oil companies we would have geopolitical chaos. Complex problems need complex solutions. I am not saying the people who say we cant find a solution till years in the future. That's just not true solutions exist Hydrogen, Sugarcane ethanol (the easiest) and others. EV is probably the worst solution to do it and be environmentally friendly we would have to change our production methods, and upgrade our grid not to mention the horrible damage the batteries cause in production and disposal. As far as the Gulf spill that was not a result of our dependence on oil. It was a failing of regulatory agencies to regulate there industries correctly Oil is drilled off shore around the world and only here are the companies not required to follow the same safety rules elsewhere. So don\t sell your Camaro if you want safe energy just be aware of who you vote for.