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Originally Posted by scrming
Again... Forget about the dyno results... The dyno could have shown 1000 RWHP, it wouldn't have mattered! It's the real world that matters! I was running the same track, at the same time, same conditions and was consistently 14.3 to 14.5 (when I really hot lapped it) and trapping 96 to 97 MPH...
Now lets look at the time slip from an SS i lined up against... Ok, STS/AAC car pulled a 2.4 60'. A bit slower than my 2.1... The SS however pulled a 2.498. So even though the STS/AAC got off to a slow start it's still in line with the SS.. SS ended up with a 14.025 at 104 MPH! So the whole theory of big wheels, and gearing seems to be a bit of a stretch.... So if it's a tune issue, which what AAC said it was, then why is STS saying the tune is spot on and Vince says he has not made any tune adjustments since the car came off the dyno...  Maybe it really was driver error... I mean I watched the guy make at least 3 passes (I was standing right there in the staging lanes)... looked like he was running it all out to me...
Bottom line is there are some serious inconsistency with the story.... I'm guessing we'll never know what the deal is with the AAC car.... Best hope is that STS actually gets a plain old V6 and puts it on and runs it... |
Again, stop ignoring the dyno entirely!
If not fudged, the dyno numbers prove what the car
should be able to do, the trap proves what it
did do. To get the full picture of what
is going on, you have to take BOTH into account as well as everything else.
I take no stock in some random dyno chart showing 400whp. I take note of a dyno chart showing a baseline of 240whp (peak) and then shows 400whp (peak, with a nice curve to match). There
is a direct correlation, and it
does matter.
...if not fudged.
Yes, the car needs to repeat the same additional physical driving force to the tires in real life for the car to go faster, but part of my point above was to show that it
can. If it
didn't (because the trap speed also matters!), then
why is the question. I'm just repeating myself now, but that sums it up.
Okay, your car ran 7mph faster. Your point is that your N/A car was faster than his turbocharged car. All that you're pointing out is that something wasn't quite
working right for a "400whp" car (whether driver, or tune, or engine, or turbo setup, or whatever). We already know that! Same thing for your SS comparo. Let's move on then...
Big wheels and gearing causing
all of the issues? Very very big stretch for sure. Those combined with every other mentioned issue? Yep, it all adds up. It's possible...
I have no idea why the apparent tuner's story doesn't match up with the apparent turbo kit vendor's story about the tune, but obviously
someone, somewhere is wrong, or lying (or both) about that.
Maybe is
was driver error. Well, the driver himself said that! Of course it
is pretty hard to screw up a slow starting slushbox car dragstrip pass. Again... add up
all of the excuses (if they're valid, or even most of them).
I agree with your bottom line, there are some inconsistencies. Ah well, the internet strikes again, what's new? It's not the end of my world. (Heck, 12's feel slow to me now, let alone mid-14's so it doesn't matter anyway.
Maybe I'll get a Corsa catback and call it a day. It is only my DD afterall, the fast car is coming soon!
)
I received another reply from STS, I'll post it up after I get home, I'm
out of this Memorial-Weekend Friday ghost-town called NASA.
