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raqball · 09-13-2010, 09:20 PM

PART THREE -- Mounting Locations and Test Results

Mounting Locations

[[Since we are on a Camaro Forum I will only cover mounting locations for the Camaro]]

Radar Detectors

Windshield mounted radar detectors should be mounted as high as possible for best range. Keep in mind that many detectors also have rear looking radar sensors that will need to "see" out the back window... On the Camaro, the best location to obtain this position is probably just below the rearview mirror..

Blendmount makes several different mounts for many different radar detectors that work great in this position. All detectors will come with suction cups that can also be used for mounting to the windshield..

No matter which mounting system is used, windshield mounted radar detectors do have their downsides... 1st and foremost, they are not stealth... Police, thief's, and other motorists will see that you have a nice detector hanging from your rear view mirror... If the police see it, you may get a ticket instead of a warning just because you have it... A thief wants it, and other motorists will tail you to "live" off your detector...

Any windshield mounted detector should be removed from the windshield when the vehicle is parked for any length of time... This will keep it hidden from thieves and in hot climates, the interior of vehicles is known to get well over 100 degrees... Many radar detectors have been "fried" due to high temperatures inside vehicles...

If you choose to leave your windshield mounted detector in your car during high heat, use a product like 303 Aerospace Protectant.... Do NOT use Armor All...

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Remote mounted systems add stealth to your detector setup... Remote mounted units offer several benefits over windshield mounted units.. They are stealth and can't generally be seen by the police, thieves, and other motorists.. They also offer a cleaner, more factory installed look if installed properly...

The radar receiver / antenna is mounted in the front grille area of the vehicle.. For best performance, the receiver / antenna should be mounted in the upper grille area and have a clear and unobstructed view of the roadway..

Laser Shifters / Jammers

The Camaro is a difficult vehicle to defend due to it's very large front end... Placement of laser shifters is made more difficult because of the slope / angle of the front bumper...

If you have a front mounted license plate, the shifters should be mounted at a mid point between the plate and the headlights...

If you do not have a front license plate the shifters should be mounted to cover the center mass of the vehicle and the headlights...

Lighter colored vehicles are more reflective to the laser beam... If you have a lighter colored Camaro, you will need to consider high powered laser shifters and Veil..

The most important factors in mounting laser shifters / jammers:

-- They must have a clear and unobstructed view of the roadway
-- They must be level ( +/- 2 degrees)
-- They must be straight (no toe in or toe out)
-- They should be mounted as far forward as possible

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Test Results of Radar Detectors and Laser Shifters / Jammers

Reference and images taken from Guys of Lidar: http://www.guysoflidar.com/

Radar Detectors

Laser Shifters / Jammers (JTG = Jam to Gun & If numbers are listed, that is the distance in feet that the Shifters jammed the gun to)

Veil

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PART FOUR -- Defense Gear Recomendations

1st you must find out what type of radar enforcement is used in your area... This list is updated frequently... If you travel, then you need protection against just about everything..

http://www.patzcatz.com/radarbands.html

Radar Detector Recommendations

** Laser detection is useless without having laser shifters / jammers.. By the time the detector alerts, your speed HAS been recorded... If laser is a concern, see Laser Shifter Recommendations **

For X, K, KA bands -- Not in listed any particular order

-- Valentine One
-- Escort 9500ix (also has red light / speed camera GPS database)
-- Escort RedLine
-- Escort 8500x50
-- Bell STi
-- Bel GX65 (also has red light / speed camera GPS database)
-- Bel RX65
-- Bel 995
-- Escort 9500ci (remote unit with red light / speed camera and laser shifters)
-- Escort Qi45 / Bel RX45 (remote unit with optional add on laser shifters)

** Most detectors under $300 are not worth spending the money on **

*** Rocky Mountain Radar devices should be avoided like they have the plague ***

For Red Light / Speed Camera's

-- Escort 9500ci
-- Escort 9500ix
-- Bel GX65
-- Escort SC55
-- Cheetah GPS Mirror
-- Cheetah C100
-- Cheetah C50

Laser Shifters / Jammers (Listed in order from best protection to lesser protection)

-- Laser Interceptor
-- Blinder
-- Escort ZR4 (these are the standard shifters on the 9500ci and are the optional shifter add on's for the Qi45/RX45)

** For best defense against laser, Veil should be used regardless of which shifters you have installed.. Veil is a must have if you run the lowered powered Escort ZR4's **

Complete Protection Setup's

** Windshield Units **

-- Valentine One with Laser Interceptors or Blinders and Cheetah GPS product
-- Escort 9500ix or Bel GX65 with Laser Interceptors or Blinder's
-- Escort RedLine or Escort 8500x50 with Laser Interceptors or Blinders and Escort SC55
-- Bel STi or Bel RX65 or Bel 995 with Laser Interceptors or Blinder's and Escort SC55

** Remote Mount Units **

-- Escort 9500ci (remove the ZR4 shifters and replace with Laser Interceptors or Blinder's)
-- Escort Qi45 or Bel RX45 with Laser Interceptors or Blinders and Cheetah GPS Mirror

Thanks for reading this long and massive mega thread and please DRIVE SAFE!!!

09-13-2010, 09:20 PM	#2
raqball Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: California Posts: 636	PART THREE -- Mounting Locations and Test Results Mounting Locations [[Since we are on a Camaro Forum I will only cover mounting locations for the Camaro]] Radar Detectors Windshield mounted radar detectors should be mounted as high as possible for best range. Keep in mind that many detectors also have rear looking radar sensors that will need to "see" out the back window... On the Camaro, the best location to obtain this position is probably just below the rearview mirror.. Blendmount makes several different mounts for many different radar detectors that work great in this position. All detectors will come with suction cups that can also be used for mounting to the windshield.. No matter which mounting system is used, windshield mounted radar detectors do have their downsides... 1st and foremost, they are not stealth... Police, thief's, and other motorists will see that you have a nice detector hanging from your rear view mirror... If the police see it, you may get a ticket instead of a warning just because you have it... A thief wants it, and other motorists will tail you to "live" off your detector... Any windshield mounted detector should be removed from the windshield when the vehicle is parked for any length of time... This will keep it hidden from thieves and in hot climates, the interior of vehicles is known to get well over 100 degrees... Many radar detectors have been "fried" due to high temperatures inside vehicles... If you choose to leave your windshield mounted detector in your car during high heat, use a product like 303 Aerospace Protectant.... Do NOT use Armor All... --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Remote mounted systems add stealth to your detector setup... Remote mounted units offer several benefits over windshield mounted units.. They are stealth and can't generally be seen by the police, thieves, and other motorists.. They also offer a cleaner, more factory installed look if installed properly... The radar receiver / antenna is mounted in the front grille area of the vehicle.. For best performance, the receiver / antenna should be mounted in the upper grille area and have a clear and unobstructed view of the roadway.. Laser Shifters / Jammers The Camaro is a difficult vehicle to defend due to it's very large front end... Placement of laser shifters is made more difficult because of the slope / angle of the front bumper... If you have a front mounted license plate, the shifters should be mounted at a mid point between the plate and the headlights... If you do not have a front license plate the shifters should be mounted to cover the center mass of the vehicle and the headlights... Lighter colored vehicles are more reflective to the laser beam... If you have a lighter colored Camaro, you will need to consider high powered laser shifters and Veil.. The most important factors in mounting laser shifters / jammers: -- They must have a clear and unobstructed view of the roadway -- They must be level ( +/- 2 degrees) -- They must be straight (no toe in or toe out) -- They should be mounted as far forward as possible --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Test Results of Radar Detectors and Laser Shifters / Jammers Reference and images taken from Guys of Lidar: http://www.guysoflidar.com/ Radar Detectors Laser Shifters / Jammers (JTG = Jam to Gun & If numbers are listed, that is the distance in feet that the Shifters jammed the gun to) Veil --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PART FOUR -- Defense Gear Recomendations 1st you must find out what type of radar enforcement is used in your area... This list is updated frequently... If you travel, then you need protection against just about everything.. http://www.patzcatz.com/radarbands.html Radar Detector Recommendations Laser detection is useless without having laser shifters / jammers.. By the time the detector alerts, your speed HAS been recorded... If laser is a concern, see Laser Shifter Recommendations For X, K, KA bands -- Not in listed any particular order -- Valentine One -- Escort 9500ix (also has red light / speed camera GPS database) -- Escort RedLine -- Escort 8500x50 -- Bell STi -- Bel GX65 (also has red light / speed camera GPS database) -- Bel RX65 -- Bel 995 -- Escort 9500ci (remote unit with red light / speed camera and laser shifters) -- Escort Qi45 / Bel RX45 (remote unit with optional add on laser shifters) Most detectors under $300 are not worth spending the money on * Rocky Mountain Radar devices should be avoided like they have the plague * For Red Light / Speed Camera's -- Escort 9500ci -- Escort 9500ix -- Bel GX65 -- Escort SC55 -- Cheetah GPS Mirror -- Cheetah C100 -- Cheetah C50 Laser Shifters / Jammers (Listed in order from best protection to lesser protection) -- Laser Interceptor -- Blinder -- Escort ZR4 (these are the standard shifters on the 9500ci and are the optional shifter add on's for the Qi45/RX45) For best defense against laser, Veil should be used regardless of which shifters you have installed.. Veil is a must have if you run the lowered powered Escort ZR4's Complete Protection Setup's Windshield Units -- Valentine One with Laser Interceptors or Blinders and Cheetah GPS product -- Escort 9500ix or Bel GX65 with Laser Interceptors or Blinder's -- Escort RedLine or Escort 8500x50 with Laser Interceptors or Blinders and Escort SC55 -- Bel STi or Bel RX65 or Bel 995 with Laser Interceptors or Blinder's and Escort SC55 Remote Mount Units -- Escort 9500ci (remove the ZR4 shifters and replace with Laser Interceptors or Blinder's) -- Escort Qi45 or Bel RX45 with Laser Interceptors or Blinders and Cheetah GPS Mirror Thanks for reading this long and massive mega thread and please DRIVE SAFE!!! Last edited by raqball; 09-16-2010 at 01:24 PM.