Drives: 2010 SS & 2008 C6
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: VA
Posts: 1,819
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Originally Posted by Roc Spo
I'm not trying to get into a fight - I'm happy with people buying whichever system they prefer, whether they intend to go racing, or just want a strong street performer. I could have bought a whipple from Tim, and may well do so in the future. Right now, Tim and I are trying to maximize the potential of the maggie. The point I was trying to make was that torque does indeed win races, and I've got the timeslips and videos to prove it. I just wanted to compare the two systems at the same track on the same day, and see which wins - a broad torque curve, or top end power. Regardless of the outcome, it still wouldn't prove anything - different tire pressures, let alone different tires, different suspension settings, and reaction times all play such a big part in the final outcome that no matter who won, no clear winner - whipple vs maggie could be declared. Plus - and here's the big part - it would be a ton of fun! When I go to the track, it's a million Mustangs and me. I'd love to race some Camaros, whether I won or not. I always learn more from losing than winning anyway, so it's all good.
as for usmcljp, if you don't drag race, and just want a strong street performer, I still say that torque is the way to go. If you never see 6600 rpm, who cares how much hp you're making up there. Instant torque, at any rpm, in any gear, is so much fun on the street. My cam is very mild - that's why I get so much low end power. Ask Tim - he prefers the cam in my car to the one in his for driving on the street. I could change cams tomorrow and make 70 more hp, but I won't be doing it, because it kills low end drivability.
Sorry if I insulted anyone, that wasn't my intention. I'm just trying to help people get where they want to go. Even though I've got a maggie, I'm rooting for the whipple too. I'm hoping Tim can find the right combination of pullies, cams, etc. to make the whipple outperform the maggie, I just don't think he's there yet.
Ric
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No I didn`t think you were trying to start of fight you were just defending yor blower. Nothign wrong with that. Thats why I explained why I picked the one I did, I was defending that decision. As far as fun on the street. No questiona maggie is where its at. The 1900 especially. As you say setup means a lot. I have outrun many cars that had over 100rwhp more than my 96 Trans am, because of set up. It was always funny watching the guys looking for the bottle that wasn`t there..Lol..They would scratch their heads and wonder how an LT1 would run that good w/ out juice. Setup is the answer. In saying that however the right choice of parts that all go hand in hand with one another is critical when optimizing a drag racing combo including engine and power adder components. I went with the Whipple or would have went Kenny bell if it was front inlet because it is a happy medium between the off idle nastiness(good thing) that is a maggie to the high end rpm horsepower that is a vortech. In the Vette world centrificals win top spots among blowers for drag racing. I tried to get as close to that as possible and yet retain low rpm fun on the street. Granted its a compromise w/ the Whipple, not quite the high rph hp potential of the centrificals and not quite the tip in torque of the maggie, but gets close to both.
Anyway,s Tim`s setup will show the difference, either way when he gets the Whipple sorted out and compares his drag times w/ it vs his drag times w/ his Maggie.
Good luck, and once I get mine finished we should hit the track together and whoop some stangs!
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2010 SS L99, 536rwhp 10.843@126.72. Whipple Supercharger stock pulley, ARH 1 7/8 longtubes w/ catted xpipe, magnaflow 3" mufflers, ADM Race CAI, 3:70 gears, lightweight wheels and nitto drag radials. Stock internal L99, stock converter.
Bolt on best before blower 12.22@113.29 w/ nothing but ARH headers, catted x-pipe, ADM CAI and a tune on stock Pzero`s!
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