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Old 10-20-2010, 11:24 AM   #64
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very well said! i was going to try and stay out of the debate of "this is why we are in a recession right now" but you explained it better than i could have!

from the BBB link i posted before:
Name: Obx Racing Sports
Phone: (510) 568-2244
Address: 405 Victory Ave, Unit K., South San Francisco, CA 94080

i would call before mailing them... looks like that address is some type of distribution center that you see for Walmart or a Grocery store.

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Originally Posted by Georger@kooks View Post
Guys this is George Rumore [aka GeorgeR}. I am on these forums for a few hours a day. I read all the post and all the points made by all members. The positive that support American companies and the negatives that just don’t care where there money goes. If you were to take a step back into time for one moment and look how our country grew in the early 1900's. It grew at an amazing rate because we had pride in where our hard earned money went. We kept here in this country. We did not take our hard earned money and help support overseas manufacturing if we could sometime we just did not have the technology so we had to outsource overseas. Now 75 years later we are in a resection because of our action to try to save a buck. Now we are a company that was started 45 years ago in Mr. Kook’s garage. Now through hard work and chasing a dream we are a leader in the header and exhaust industry. That is because of one thing PRIDE IN WHAT WE DO AND DEDICATION to you the auto enthusiast. Now I know some of you just want to save a buck if you can that’s fine everyone is entitled to spend there money where they want. But that does not always mean it is right. I see there are people in some of these threads that defend these actions by companies taking other companies design and knocking them off then I see the same people signing of with the Words SEMPER FI. Now for those that do not know SEMPER FI means always faithful, now the reason why I can speak about this is I served in the Marine Corp for 6 years. I was in Force Recon for 5 of those years. In that time I learned many things one of the most important things I learned was take pride in your country. Hell I took an oath that I was willing to die for this country. That is where my pride for this country comes from. When these companies do what they are doing all it is doing is slowly killing this country that so many of our generations of family members worked so hard to build and die for. I am curious to know how some of you would feel if in your work place on a Monday morning you come in with your coffee sit down at your desk and then your boss comes over to you and sits down. Then he proceeds to tell you that you position will be outsourced to a company over seas because it is cheaper for them to do business there so we appreciate all your hard work and starting this program but this other Co can do it for cheaper so we are sorry. Now you have to go home and tell your family that you where fired so that company you were so loyal to can save a buck or two. Now this happens everyday and you can see where this country is headed. That being said you are correct it is your money do what you want with it. I have the same opportunity to spend my money where ever I choose to and I choose to support American based companies.
Now there are a few of you that say just sue them. We do hold a patent for a key component in the header design. My problem is I would like to send a letter to this company but there is no address to send it to. If somebody could provide an address I would love to here there response to these allegations. But after reading the Better business bureau reports I have a feeling they will not respond.

he never said he bought ONLY american made stuff! he simply stated he supports it! i do the very same thing. when i buy things for my car or my home, i prefer domestic and preferably locally made products. for detailing equipment, i chose Adam's Polishes, for headers, i chose American Racing, for intake, i chose ADM, for suspension, i chose Pfadt, and for a tune, i chose DiabloSport... all domestic companies with products made in the US (not sure on my programmer, but the company and all it employees are here in the US), for my home's furniture, i bought stuff from a local furniture store that makes everything out of solid wood right here in Texas. i don't shop at Walmart anymore, store is too big to find what your looking for quickly, and the people i see there are trash!

but sometimes you just cannot find american made products! it stinks, but we try and keep those things at a minimum.

and yes it is wrong to buy these headers! from the pics above you can clearly see they are knock off Kooks! only difference between the 2 i see is their patented merge collectors, multi piece primaries, and the brand plaque at the top of the primaries is on a different cylinder. i would never buy a fake Rolex (i would never even spend the money for a real one!), and i would never buy my wife a fake designer handbag. it supports the grey market and low moral standards.

i'm not trying to put anyone down that has already bought these headers... you might not have known where or who you bought them from, and frankly didn't care because it was a great deal! i just ask those who haven't chosen the right header yet, do some research! it took me 5 seconds to find out OBX is a bad company to deal with! F rating from BBB, and only sold on eBay, no where else! too sketchy for me to buy no matter the cost.

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Originally Posted by 2010 2-Tone View Post
George, I first want to say Thank You very much for serving this country!! Now I am going to say Bullshit on some of the other stuff. I agree about supporting America and all but you can't tell me that EVERY time you buy clothes you check the label and if it doesn't say MADE IN THE U.S. you put it back. If you buy power tools that you only buy American made. There are a 100 other scenarios that I could bring up and I bet you DO buy things along the way that were made overseas!!!! But it is SOOOO wrong to buy these headers that were made overseas because you are in that business. The OBX ARE NOT CALLED KOOKS!!!! Get over it!!! O Yeah, just to remind everone, I DID BUY THE KOOKS COATED and I still have this opinion!!! LEAVE IT ALONE and let the OP and the rest of the members swap information like this forum allows us to do.
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