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Old 01-16-2009, 10:44 AM   #41
383ss
 
Drives: 1985 IROC, 2011 Camaro
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Location: Lemont, IL
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Originally Posted by City Chevrolet View Post
I am just asking a question and I am not saying that a Z06 and a Camaro are the same product or cost the same, but there will be only a minor amount to each dealership at first and that is simular compared to say a Malibu or Silverado.

I don't think this is a fair statement (the underlined one) because a dealership decides not to honor Supplier or GM pricing on something you won't see many of, again, profit is only bad in the Car and Oil business.. and why is MSRP such a dang ugly word? You will purchase that pair of Nikes at 1000% markup, a Tie at 2000%, heck a TV/Stereo at 100%.. just not a car at 3%, I get it.

I have really had about enough of the demonizing of dealerships everywhere I look. PSST. Hey guys, it hasn't been a fricken banner year to begin with, now all customers think "Good, let's hold em hostage and make em sell for nothing... THEY HAVE TO!" gah, I better stop because I know probably none of the Consumers here really care as long as they get what they want for what they want.

I do not know of this IDL, but then again I missed the last one a few days back. SOrry I ranted a bit, wasn't aimed at you persay Bolt
That is why customers can get frustrated. Guys like us generally know more than the salesperson. I'm sure your a nice guy and not trying to rip anyone off, but I hope you can see our side of it.

MSRP is an ugly word, because a year or so from now, a 2010 camaro or any other GM car will be worth %60 of MSRP.

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Originally Posted by City Chevrolet View Post
I do not understand this thread and maybe someone can enlighten me a bit. How are you guys so sure GM will be allowing the GMS number or Supplier number to be honored at time of delivery? What if your dealer backs out of that deal? With the Z06 they did not honor GMS or the like for something like 6 months or better.

I am a bit confused since you can not submit a number to GM without a VIN and GM could post their "bulletin" that they will not be doing GMS when the vehicles are about to come out and then the dealer won't want to take a bath on a vehicle of $2,000..

I had a irrate guy sent me an email, he was irrate because I said I could not honor GM supplier pricing on it at this point..(dealership rules currently) I told him with the limited allocation that we had.. GM would not reimburse us as far as we know.. etc. I am now a Liar I guess for trying to be a staright shooter. Lesson one I learned in this business, Consumers will always be angry when they can not acquire what they want for the price they want and without fail it has been true.

Help me out here some.
That was me! I want to buy local, I want to support the local economy, but I won't take a $2000 hit to do it. These cars value will drop like a rock the way it is. I was upset because you said it was 'limited production' I felt that was a ploy to not honor GM supplier, when GM said they would offer it.


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Originally Posted by City Chevrolet View Post
Gonna word pick me to death aren't you?

Point is simply this, The Government will see more profit from your car than the dealer will.

90% of people don't want to let or care if a dealer makes $100

99% of all consumers don't give a rats that a salesperson may only sell 10 cars a month at $100 per car because of the consumer mentality of "Invoice" or better.

99% of consumers don't care if a dealership stays open for the next 60 days

89% of consumers will ditch their previous salesperson over $200 on the next purchase without a second thought.

99.9% of consumers will tip a hair stylist $10 or so but wouldn't give their saleperson a cupon for a free whopper.

etc. etc.
I've bought 5 NEW GM cars/trucks in the last 10 years. two 99 camaro's, 03 and 07 Silverado and 08 G8. I have yet to meet a salesman that I felt earned his money. I want a guy who knows more about a car than I do, who can deal with me directly instead of referring to a manager for every dime of negotiation.
I buy from GM, because I love GM. not because some salesman sold me on a car.

I will say, sorry if I came off as an a-hole in any emails. Like I said, dealing with car dealers can be frustrating. Good luck to you and your dealership. I hope no GM dealerships go under, but I know thats not reality.



ALSO, sorry this thread got so off topic. Maybe a mod can separate it out? I would really like to see the dealers honoring discounts.
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