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Originally Posted by live2well
Good Morning Hylton,
I agree with most of what you have said and understand all of what you said. The only problem I have is that the GM Dealer business plan spells out how GM is going to run its dealership programs. All Dealership owners know what to they can expect from GM and should account for those things accordingly. One of those thing is to except the trash cars with the good selling cars. Another is the discounts that are available to the consumer. Another is the money that they should make with the repairs. And many other streams of revenue. With that in mind the dealer must adjust their business plan to account for those possible losses or gains. I believe that not allowing the customer the discounts that they are entitled to is unethical and bad business. If the dealer cant absorb the small amount of discount that occurs from GMS and/or GMU customers then they are not running the business properly and therefore should lose their business. :-) We may just have to cheerfully agree to disagree on the GMS/GMU issue at hand. I as a businessman do understand exactly from where you are coming. :-)
P.S. Sorry OP for Jacking your thread. IMO the best way to get the discount you deserve is to ask for it and if you dont get it find a dealer that will give it to you.
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Good morning Brian!
You are not highjacking the thread since you are discussing the topic at hand. I wish dealers would be willing to accept any discount programs as well but they are within their right not to. As per the dealership agreement, there is no provision stating that they MUST accept ALL discounts at ANY time.
The dealership agreement also allows the more unscrupulous dealers to sell the new Camaro above MSRP. GM is not doing anything to stop them from doing that. That's why we have created 2 threads here - one which identifies all the delaerships selling above MSRP and all the dealerships selling at MSRP or
below.
Botom line is that most people will be able to find a dealership that will honor GMS discounts but you will have to be willing to spend hours and hours on the phone. It's all about how much effort you want to put into the endeavor.
I would suggest to anyone not willing to bang your head against the wall by spending hours talking to stupid, uninformed salesman (if you are on this site, you will know more than them), to wait 6 month when you start to see a few cars on the dealer lots. That's when they will be ready to deal.
BTW - my dealer buddy thinks he will not have one car on the lot for at least a year. That was before he knew he was getting the V6 car that GM is building for all the dealers.
As for the trash cars, it may be in the agreement but that business model does not work in todays market. That business model was created when GM had over 50% of the North American market. It barely has 20% now. GM has to be able to make all it's plants Flex plants and be able to change what they build on a dime so that they can better respond to what the customer is asking for. The days of buld it, and shove it in their face are over.