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Originally Posted by MrCool
blaSSt: Could you please explain where you got 4.9 seconds for the WRX STi, and where you got 6.3 seconds for the Camaro, and what models are you talking about exactly?
I got the camaro times from wikipedia and theautochannel.com , and the WRX STi from edmunds.com. What moddels are you talking about? Maby wikipedia, edmunds, and theautochannel are completely wrong?
From what times I've looked up, doesn't seem like the LT1 Camaro is "destroyed off the line" when comparing the models stated above, unless the 1994 STi does better with only 247 BHP? Quarter mile: 13.6 for subaru and 14.2 for Camaro. Price wise: difference of $13,831 I bet you can do alot of mods with that kind of money.
Also, what would constitute "destroyed off the line"? Aparently from what I find, 0.6 of a second in difference? 2006 Subaru WRX STi 13.6, and 1994 Camaro Z28 14.2
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I put the links in my original posts. All you have to do is click on them:
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Originally Posted by blaSSt
The only conversation worth having is stock vs. stock. It depends on what year STI one is talking about. Any STI will soundly beat a stock LT1. And with an LS1 it comes down to a drivers race.
Rated 0-60/1/4mile? 2006 STI 4.9/13.2 2002 4th Gen SS 5.2/13.2
Magazine 0-60/1/4mile? 2006 STI 5.0/13.0 4th Gen 5.2/13.6
Dragtimes average 1/4 mile? STI 13.4 4th Gen 13.4
That makes it a drivers race. AWD on the STI gives it an advantage 0-60 off the line. 4th gens makes it up on the back end (if they got a good launch).
There have been a few factory freak 4th gens that got down to 12.8, but that also seems to have happened with Subarus also. (see link above) |
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Originally Posted by blaSSt
Well soundly is relative. All of your assertions are also relative. How about some facts.
FACT In a 1/4 mile race the LT1 can expect to be beat by 0.8-1.0 seconds or about 10 car lengths. Best stock LT1 times are around 14.0, most in high 14's. Best WRX time is 12.8 with many low 13's.
FACT WRX STI is rated 0-60 at 4.9, LT1 camaro is rated 6.3. Camaro is destroyed off the line. (There's another relative term.)
FACT Power to weight ratio favors Subaru:
WRX STI: 3000 lbs. / 300 hP = 10 lbs. per horsepower.
LT1 Camaro: 3400 lbs. / 275 hP = 12.4 lbs. per horsepower.
Your camaro needs a boost of 70-100 horsepower (more than a few bolt-ons). A very good tranny as stated and a good torque converter, suspension/tire mods to allow full throttle takeoffs. Cheapest way is to spray it with a 100 shot, that would be a good race for 1/4. Of course you need more if the STI is modified.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Hopefully that's better than finding out other ways. |
It would be extremely complicated to calculate the details, calculus and such. Depends on shift points, etc. But, with some simplifying assumptions:
STI hits 60 MPH in 5.0 seconds, hits 103 MPH in 13.0 seconds.
Then it accelerates according to this equation: speed = -0.5096 * (sec)^2 + 14.548 * sec.
LT1 hits 60 MPH in 6.3 seconds, hits 97 MPH in 14.8 seconds.
Then it accelerates according to this equation: speed = -0.3494 * (sec)^2 + 11.725 * sec.
Distance travelled can be estimated by integration of the area under the curve.
Using these formulas:
After 1 second STI is travelling 14 MPH, LT1 is 11 MPH and 2 ft behind.
After 3 seconds STI is travelling 39 MPH, LT1 is 32 MPH and is 17 ft. behind.
After 5 seconds STI is travelling 60 MPH, LT1 is 49.9 MPH and is 42 ft. behind. (Over 2 car lengths)
After 6.3 seconds STI is travelling 73 MPH, LT1 is 60 MPH and is 64 ft. behind. (Over 3 car lengths)
After 13 seconds STI is travelling 103 MPH, LT1 is 93 MPH and is 180 ft. behind. (Over 9 car lengths)
After 14.8 seconds STI is travelling 108 MPH, LT1 is 97 MPH and is 200 ft. behind. (Over 10 car lengths)