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diV6 · 03-09-2009, 12:22 AM

ok. lets put it this way. Your argument is saving money. If your buying a v6, your still buying a transmission, engine, and suspension your going to remove and replace. If you buy a v8, instead of removing the entire engine, replacing the whole transmission, and the entire suspension, you can simply replace the parts that need upgrading.

Instead of replacing the 6l50 transmission, you just get a mechanic to rebuild your 6l80 to your specs. Instead of buying a whole new engine, you just do a head and cam swap or add a turbo charger supercharger.

If your goal is to go fast for the lowest amount of money, buying a v6 is penny wise, dollar stupid in the long run. yes, you might save money on insurance as the insurance company sees a v6, but the insurance wont cover all the modifications you have done to your car either.

The 8k difference between the ls and a 1ss will be more used up in the additional cost of mods. Your plan might save you 8k up front, but it will cost you far more farther down the line to go slower than you could of if you got the v8 and modded it.

Additionaly, while there are turbo kits for the v6, the aftermarket is far larger for the lsx engines. The l99, due to its afm, has a more limited aftermarket.

If your goal is to build an extreme car, just for the track, with your own original engine, suspension, and transmission, look into the body in white program we heard about earlier.

The path you are considering is just not cost effective any way you look at it. The only advantage it has is that it lets you buy the camaro before you save up the 8k difference between the ls and the 1ss, and in the long run it will cost you more money.

The v6 is a great car. I am going to get one, but i wouldn't plan to use it as a foundation for a track car.

Look, im not trying to irritate you, but your plans here are just not the most cost effective way to go extremely fast.

Maybe I am misunderstanding you, it sounds like you eventually want to go extreme. If you want to go seriously extreme, see about a body in white. If you just want to somewhat extreme, like 500-650hp (I know there were off the record statements by gm that they had camaro prototypes with up to 650hp, so the ss suspension should be able handle that high) then go with the v8 as your starting point.

If you want to get to to 400, just buy the v8 from the start, its still the most effective way, and you'll have that speed before the warranty is up. Is the warranty 5 years? Thats a long time to be driving a 300hp car when what you want is 400hp.

This is my last post on this issue. I am not looking to irritate you. But TO ME, as i understand your intentions, it just doesn't make sense. If I were you, I would figure out my eventual performance goals, figure out what you would have to do to a v8 and a v6 model to get there, price out the mods and the cars, and figure which is cheapest. Maybe I am wrong. Maybe I dont understand your plan. But seriously, when modding, don't do it ad hoc piece meal, do it with a plan.

03-09-2009, 12:22 AM	#8
diV6 Drives: 94 camaro z28 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: bay area, ca Posts: 31	ok. lets put it this way. Your argument is saving money. If your buying a v6, your still buying a transmission, engine, and suspension your going to remove and replace. If you buy a v8, instead of removing the entire engine, replacing the whole transmission, and the entire suspension, you can simply replace the parts that need upgrading. Instead of replacing the 6l50 transmission, you just get a mechanic to rebuild your 6l80 to your specs. Instead of buying a whole new engine, you just do a head and cam swap or add a turbo charger supercharger. If your goal is to go fast for the lowest amount of money, buying a v6 is penny wise, dollar stupid in the long run. yes, you might save money on insurance as the insurance company sees a v6, but the insurance wont cover all the modifications you have done to your car either. The 8k difference between the ls and a 1ss will be more used up in the additional cost of mods. Your plan might save you 8k up front, but it will cost you far more farther down the line to go slower than you could of if you got the v8 and modded it. Additionaly, while there are turbo kits for the v6, the aftermarket is far larger for the lsx engines. The l99, due to its afm, has a more limited aftermarket. If your goal is to build an extreme car, just for the track, with your own original engine, suspension, and transmission, look into the body in white program we heard about earlier. The path you are considering is just not cost effective any way you look at it. The only advantage it has is that it lets you buy the camaro before you save up the 8k difference between the ls and the 1ss, and in the long run it will cost you more money. The v6 is a great car. I am going to get one, but i wouldn't plan to use it as a foundation for a track car. Look, im not trying to irritate you, but your plans here are just not the most cost effective way to go extremely fast. Maybe I am misunderstanding you, it sounds like you eventually want to go extreme. If you want to go seriously extreme, see about a body in white. If you just want to somewhat extreme, like 500-650hp (I know there were off the record statements by gm that they had camaro prototypes with up to 650hp, so the ss suspension should be able handle that high) then go with the v8 as your starting point. If you want to get to to 400, just buy the v8 from the start, its still the most effective way, and you'll have that speed before the warranty is up. Is the warranty 5 years? Thats a long time to be driving a 300hp car when what you want is 400hp. This is my last post on this issue. I am not looking to irritate you. But TO ME, as i understand your intentions, it just doesn't make sense. If I were you, I would figure out my eventual performance goals, figure out what you would have to do to a v8 and a v6 model to get there, price out the mods and the cars, and figure which is cheapest. Maybe I am wrong. Maybe I dont understand your plan. But seriously, when modding, don't do it ad hoc piece meal, do it with a plan.