Agree'd, the fued has carried over to this forum and i apologize.
"First of all - Bill W - is not and has not been the only person involved in all the BS that is going on - there were many people at the meeting that was arranged by another member NOT Bill and attended by many other people NOT only Bill and I do not recall seeing any request to change the date so someone could attend!! So before complaining about the date or results of that meeting - get the facts straight."
Just for the record, this is non being answered with malice or anger to anyone. I would like to not discuss it any more. Thank you.
Not that it matters anymore, but this is not how it works or did work. A date is made a question is asked on who's attending. Most of the club on FB marked "NOT ATTENDING" (holiday weekend) It was also never on the website.
" I never saw any comments on or about the website, other than it's a POS. So I had no idea it was being used or I would have mentioned it there. The point of all this was to have club participation of members, members that cant make it to all of the "important" meetings. You said your self most of the club isnt even on FB, so what chance did they have to say something?
I personally sent an e-mail to non FB members. I received no responses.
I dont know why that is so hard to understand. Its a poor attitude to think that since people are busy or not on FB they dont want to participate. Do you see why its exclusive now?
I guess it doesn't matter because you do only want 25 members. I understand some people just join to join, but there are some that work 24/7 or have family issues.
Its good to hear that B-W was and is not the only one, behind everything.
OMG finally a truth!
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I have never in my life seen someone carry on so much and so long over something as trivial as a CAR CLUB - don't you people have a life? A family? You had your say and now it is time to move on - find another hobby or spend time with your SO."
Read above posts, we were with family we see once a year
Nice to sling some more BS around tho good job getting the facts straight.
Again, its not just a car club but friends and community or it was supossed to be. When someone deliberately try's to exclude people its not cool, especially when its supposed to be all inclusive
THATS what its about. Its about right and wrong. I guess some people dont care about community. I guess thats the problem or my problem that i have trouble accepting, that and the fact that the original post still says it welcomes everybody.
They are welcome.
You either haven't read everything or you dont see the point of this all, or you keep making excuses for it.
Im glad you just had to create an account to get your say in tho. I dont consider that juvenile at all.
Again, sincere apologies for carrying this over to here!
I do apologize to bill W for not being behind all the actions of the club.
That could have been easily covered within one of the first posts by just saying so, instead of taking a posturing position, and arguing more.
I honestly dont know why he never stood up for himself or even explained rationally or threw whoever else it is under the bus lol.
I stood up for the club, no point in throwing anyone under the bus. But, the decision that was made was by the 9 people in attendance. Could it have been done differently, maybe. But to jump down someones throat and start name calling or without even asking if this could be addressed and discussed was wrong. For example, look how nice John Orloff's letter was. No name calling, he asked questions. Some I didn't want to answer on here, because I was getting ready to try to get things back to the way it was. I started this club to be fun, that got lost on the way. Different people had different ideas on how to run it. I went with those that had more experience at it. It didn't work.
This has become pointless for me, CDCNY will obviously not say anything like sorry for the confusion sorry for wasting your time sorry for excluding you! Sorry for removing you from FB without reason or notice! ect ect. This is how the club works its the monarchy way or the highway!
I will however apologize for the wasted server space to camaro5.com Sorry to the GOOD Members of CDCNY that have to deal with the drama.
But anyone looking into the club will at-least have an idea that it is exclusive, and not to be mislead or have their time energy and money wasted.