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Originally Posted by fbodfather
You are absolutely correct. Most people will ALWAYS think that way.
I don't care what car or truck it is - and what color pallette you put in place - you will ALWAYS get the same comments.
That is one of my points that I've been trying to make.......Color is subjective.......and I guarantee you that if I could magically wave a wand
(and I can't by the way - I don't have anything to do with color selection other than I'm asked my opinion - )
....and change all 10 colors to something else - (or if YOU chose 10 colors -- or little boy blue and the man in the moon chose 10 colors -- ) we would STILL get the same comments - because you see - each of us looks at color subjectively - the studies on color are absolutely FASCINATING -- esp. as to what turns people OFF about a color or a shading......
(me? show me a shimmering red metallic that has fire in it and I'm off in the clouds somewhere - just love it - BUT - I don't know that I'd order a Camaro in said color**......)
So - yup - no matter what we do - even if we were to increase the color pallette to 20 colors -- we will still have someone say (in so many words)
"..........the color choices are awful because you don't offer *insert your favorite color of all time here*......"
See what I'm saying????
(....and no, I'm not going to beat you..........)
(........unless you buy a Mustang, perhaps.....
Now to the ** part......
I went thru a couple of sessions on color - one at GM Design Studio that one must go thru to ensure that you are not color blind and that you can 'sense' very subtle color variances - (I went thru it at he same time Cheryl did - long story, but we were both judged to be 'experts'...) --
Another session was with a color expert in New York.......it's a mulit-hour session where you look at various colors and objects and lighting - and you are taken back in time, so to speak - to figure out WHY you love certain shades and colors.....now - my mention of a dark firey red - seems that I link it to a couple of things: - Red Soda, red hard candy, a cheer leader's uniform, red blinking lights found on carnival rides, and red metallic in a drum set........all of this in my subconscious........
...and each of us has this "color memory" - and we have it for all colors and shades - some memories are great - others are so-so - and others can actually cause bad memories.......
As I said - color is NEVER objective - it's SUBJECTIVE -
OK to continue to discuss - I just ask that you realize that no matter what we do - we can't make all of you happy all of the time with all 10 colors. |
Scott,
first off I appreciate your knowledge and insight and look forward to all of your posts like a kid at a candy store much like everyone else in Camaro world.
I am glad I don't get a beating or a bunch of suburbans followin...wait whats that out there
..oh nevermind they drove off..
Anyway..I am glad that we can have discussions like this because its the Camaro that fuels this passion in all of us. If I'm being a bit of a broken record or thorn in your side its only your car to blame!!
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I understand. and don't get me wrong, its the whole automotive industry that has gone to conservative colors.
Look at the colors posted in this thread available from other manufacturers to see that colors (or lack thereof) are kind of a lost art these days for vehicles.
Maybe its because of restrictions on voc compliant finishes, maybe its just a trend, I don't know.
I do know I am not color blind and I appreciate a full "range" of colors to satisfy a personalization perspective, rather than being upset about "my" color not being in the palette.
I mean, yes I WANT SGM..but if its not available, I'll probably go Victory red, which is also a color I like, but not my first choice.
I won't be a go or no go deciding factor in whether or not I purchase a ZL1, just limits my happiness a little.
I guess since much of my time is spent restoring musclecars, I am used to dealing with palettes from the 60's primarily, where a customer had 15 to 20 color choices, with the option of custom choices on an ordered car.
Maybe sometime a car manufacturer will see the personalization aspect of color choice other than purely a popularity contest limited to 5 or 6 colors.
You yourself stated color choice is subjective not objective, so as a manufacturer, go ahead, have some fun and just have at it and pick some bright colors sujectively, 'cause honestly that is the best way to choose colors.
Its not that I don't "like" all the colors offered, its just that lately they seem too limited and conservative, or too long in the tooth to permit personalization.
I get the white, black , red, silver. But on the other colors, Live a little. Drop the current yellow and orange , they had a run already and sub in some different colors for a year, then a couple more the next, etc.
I get the idea it may not be possible in this day and age of Car manufacturing to allow such personalization,I will be the first to admit, I am not an industry insider, nor do I know all the intricate details of car manufacturing, and I may be barking up a tree with nothing to bark at, but an exciting car like the ZL1 deserves at least one special mind blowingly bright color. The new Charcoal is kind of the idea, but I think a bright dazzling color would have been more appropriate IMHO. The charcoal is more Caddy than Camaro.
