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Originally Posted by espo19047
The best way to stop this is to not pay. As long as people pay dealers will ask. Simple supply and demand. Some people who bought their car for msrp may put their car on Ebay and get more then what they paid.
When PS3 and WII came out people overpaid. I bought the WII for my kids at regular price but the only way to get it was to buy $90 worth of extras. When your local team makes the playoffs people sell their tickets because people are ready to pay big money for them.
My dealersip charges msrp for the Camaro. We did get $25000 over on 5 ZR-1s. People called from all over the USA offering money for them so we took it.
I don't know if you will ever see the day where you can buy direct from GM.
I am a professional. So I have to disagree with your post. Show a little respect and grow up. The salesman you speak of are not on this site. The salesman you would like to deal with are. I just grow a little tired of the lack of respect and generalizations that go on here...
Nobody is buying direct from Toyota so I need to be there to let them know why the Malibu is better then the Camry. Here is another hint when the Malibu came out people paid sticker now there are rebates and they go at invoice and it is a great car. They do want to sell over 100K Camaros a year right?
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I am a professional business owner AND a professional consumer. I'm not showing any dealer respect until I get one that treats me like an intelligent, interested buyer. I've gotten screwed and scammed on just about every Chevrolet I've purchased regardless of dealership. They impose special paint insurance, screw me with disgusting finance charges when my credit is perfect and then when I leave my car in their hands to service, they do not notate my tires are wearing quickly until it is too late. EXPENSIVE PIRELLI'S by the way. I don't care who you are. A good appple or a bad apple. Until I start getting treated like a first class citizen when I walk into a dealership with $40K to spend on a vehicle, that dealer better roll out the red carpet, fetch me a cup of coffee, get me the best vehicle pricing, look me squarely in the eye, tell me the truth and be polite about it. Until this happens, you'll be just like every other salesman who has to pull their weight and earn customer respect in a sea of other salesmen who have sullied your credibility without you having done a thing to contribute to it. Don't take it out on me because you are working behind the eight ball thanks to your associates. You sell me a car without all the BS, you'll bet your sweet cheeks I will be the first to blab it all over the world to everybody I know and I will CONTINUE to purchase vehicles from you. Please, don't insult me. It isn't befitting of you. Instead of taking offense to what I'm saying take greater proactive approaches to change customer opinion of the vehicle buying experience. You know as well as I do that the customer isn't always right, however, unless you are willing to turn away business because you cannot swallow your foolish pride, the customer will continue to always be right.
By the way, I already know the Malibu is a much better car than the Camry. I completely agree with you there, but the sales experience has to reflect the workmanship and stature of the car to make it a hit.