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Originally Posted by oortcloud
And why the heck not? It's the reason I'm buying the ZL1. I'll be taking it to the road course so I want the best all around car in my price range.
Shelby's 2 position dampers vs. ZL1's MRC? The ZL1 will be extremely difficult for the 2013 shelby to beat on almost any road track. We've seen some road course times for the ZL1 and they are pretty damn good. So we know its not just hype or theoretical.
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You forget that all the roadcourse times we have seen so far for the ZL1 are all GM times... You know the ONLY people able to get the Z into the 11's...
Your fooling yourself if you think when these two cars are tested against eachother, that the ZL1 will perform or be drivin like it was when GM did it... Am i calling GM liars? Nope. Am i calling them cheaters? Nope...
Were the ring times posted really an indication of what the ZL1 can do? Or was it what the driver could do with a car that was
specifically set up for that particular roadcourse, after making TONS of laps getting to know every single turn...
I ask this question because i read that the pro driver Aaron link, made something like 40 to 50 laps around Nurbugring before he even got that time... When he wasn't running the ring in the Z, he was at home playing a simulation game of an exact replica of the Nurburgring ring getting to know every turn.
"Ring times are like any other laptimes in the world: subject to weather, chance, and the constant grinding effort of development work. Doesn’t matter if you start with a “stock” car. You can adjust camber, you can crank the toe in back until you either set a record or kill your driver, you can mess around with tire temps, you can use your datalogger to stitch together an “ideal lap” and then go run that lap. Period. No magic. No special significance. It’s a racetrack. Nothing more. Nothing less."
Did they have an excellent marketing department for the ZL1? You betchya...
If you think anyone EVER will replicate the times GM laid down at VIR or the Ring, again your fooling yourself...
When these two cars go at it same day, same driver, same conditions, there will be alot of jaws dropping around here wondering what happened...
Here ya go man...
http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2012/02...know-that.html
"While we can understand General Motor's fixation with the Nürburgring, we're getting the slight impression that the Detroit automaker may be overdoing it when it comes to promoting its cars.
After a ton of Nürburgring-related films on the Cadillac ATS and following the official video of the 2012 Chevy Camaro ZL1 lapping the Nordschleife in 7 minutes and 41.27 seconds, GM has published the fifth installment of its ZL1 video series that gives us yet another insight on how its engineers developed the pony car on the German race track.
Perhaps the most interesting part in this latest clip is when one of GM's testers admits to playing Forza on Xbox to hone his driving skills.
"Every night I am on my Xbox playing Forza, just driving the track [the Nürburgring]. They are so accurate now, they got the graffiti on the track and literally, I mean, it really helps".