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Old 05-21-2012, 04:48 PM   #1238
grimmace
 
Drives: 2012 ZL1
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: new york
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Originally Posted by 69bossnine View Post
I can't wait to see the real head-to-head comparison articles, but until then, we bench-race I suppose... I've got a couple comments..


* Grimmace - You do realize that it's the marketing team that decided upon model-year assignments, that they are rather ARBITRARY (2013 is 6 1/2 months away), and that these two vehicles are more-or-less hitting the streets concurrently, within a couple months of each other... They are contemporaries, period, trying to paddle-back to the 2012 GT500 just makes you look horribly desperate.

* Sure, a pulley-tune may grab you an extra 50hp at the rear wheels, but that certainly isn't going to net you the EXTRA 8MPH you need in trap-speed just to hold-check. Even with a pulley-tune mod, you're still underpowered and overweight compared to the 2013 GT500.

* Not to mention that they can do the same pulley/tune mod just as easily, just as cheaply.

* The fact that the ZL1 is a bit cheaper is a valid point, I'll grant you that, which allows you to use saved-cash towards mods. But that point only goes so far, because you never get your money back on mods, so when you look at the end-game, buying a slightly cheaper car and then modding the heck out of it is not an apples/apples $$ comparison. The modded car will be worth far less when it changes hands.

Lastly, most earlier GT500's on the road are at MINIMUM pulleyed/tuned and more than ready to walk off from a stock ZL1 in a friendly highway pull. So if you're going to worry about street-cred, better start turning wrenches... My 2011 GT500 with TVS/elbow/TB upgrades dyno'd at 660hp to the rear wheels, through it's 100% stock exhaust. It's a silly silly goose!...

In any case, I'm driving my '67 Corvette today, I'm no bow-tie hater by any means. This pony car war IS INDEED great for both marques, and the rivalry is damn fun...

Looking forward to seeing these two cars on a good road course, release the hounds!!

Sorry I beg to differ....not desperate at all....the point I was trying to make again was that GM pegged the ZL1 to the CURRENT gt500 so GM released what their horsepower numbers were going to be over a year ago. By GM doing this Ford now knew the figures and made damn sure it would have more....thats it. There is no desperation in my comments....just reality. And also again I think its great. This is isn't directed at you but some people on here love to point out the "facts." Well this is a fact too. It is also true that if GM does nothing to up the 2013 model with more power (which looks to be the case) then yes it will lose in the qtr mile/0-60 war of words. I would however like to see what happens on a track and what all the gt 500 people would say if it lost. Shouldn't be long now until we see those results as well. At the end of the day two awesome machines...
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