[Bob Cosby]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Do you need to add TWO packages to a Base GT500 to get a factory-allowed 200+ mph? Yes. The total cost of said vehicle and MANDATORY 200+ mph packages? $61,000...not "rhetoric...FACT.

Curb Weight, Base GT500, as per Ford: 3820 lb. Curb Weight, as tested at Atlanta with BOTH 200+ mph packages: 3870. 57/43 "balance".

The thing about the uneducated and/or illiterate Mustang folks is, with all these possible option packages, STATISTICS and PRICE get confused. Happened with the BOSS- BOSS LS deal, and now it's happenin' with the ChiliWagon. Suddenly EVERY BOSS is $42K and almost matches the $55K ZL1 on a road course and at the strip. NO...it's the now-$49K BOSS LS that almost-but-not-quite kept up with the ZL1 @ Inde...but, again, that's rhetoric...

Whatever the GT500 does, track-wise, it will be a $61K+ 3870 lb. ChiliWagon with not-so-hot-sauce...and a decided PRICE disadavantage to match its PERFORMANCE disadvantage to the road-course-commanding ZL1. Remember Ford's emphasis on AUTOCROSS in it's early-last-week press release? THAT was rhetoric...

Since 1969 has been discussed willingly, here, and it was the final year before Insurance interests started pounding nails into the coffins of muscle car owners with huge premium increases, Camaro that year sold around a 1/4 million versions in that extended Model year. About 50,000 were "performance" versions (non-Base Model-based). What constituted 40% (roughly) of thse "performance" models, in the hayday of muscle car-dom?

Yup...Z/28s. Nimble. Road-racy. Capable. High-winders. Image. ICONIC!!

(Seems to me my racin' pal Dave Strickler did rather well at the strip with one, too...as did Grump with his ZL1...)

Why do we Camaro comrades value road manners and all-around capabilities? HERITAGE...and HOMAGE...the the REAL ZEE!

May it return to a Chevy showroom near you, very-very soon...

Hey LOWDOWN....ever heard of "Red Planet". Goes by more commonly known names too. Your posts seem eerily familiar....

Just sayin.