Gratz to you guys that have had a good experience with Courtesy, Van and Power (Superstion) I have a short fuse with salesman if they can't give me the answers i am looking for (and most of the time already know the answer) just testing the waters for competence i guess...
Anyways,

looks like we are all pretty much in the same general area, sounds like there is going to be some scottsdale pavilions car night meet and greets in the near future...