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Originally Posted by Bob Cosby
Who is "Evans"?
Slip of the key...Evan, as in Evan Smith.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but nobody would believe a 1.6 (or even 1.7) out of a stock-tired GT500. It has far too much power to do that on stock rubber (not an issue for some cars, I know).
...with a poorer weight distribution, with its smaller 285s, and with a dumbed-down mechanical ratio of 8.80 (8.99 adjusted for shorter tires) vs. the Automatic ZL1's 12.92 and the 6-speed's 9.92:1 (1st gear X rear gear).
Proper indeed, Scott.
There you go again, Bob, wanting me to be Scott...which, unfortunately, I'm NOT... Keep guessin'...
Oh, and as stated, .151 (or even .16) is a HUGE difference in 60 ft. A bit more than a hair.
...but not as huge as the 2.3 or 2.4 that Stangers want the world to believe is the REAL number...and perhaps you could gently inform your Alberta friend that .15 in the 60' doesn't necessarily correlate to something as great or greater on the big end.
Most of us that weren't blinded by brand loyalty were quite sure the ZL1 would crack 11's with actual owners - and I think will go at least 11.8 in really good air, perhaps better. But the cynic in me got to thinking a little bit....you know how some (such as you) were calling the GT500 a "one-trick pony"? Remember that? Given the huge difference in performance when the air is hot compared to when the air is cold, could we not call the ZL1 a "one-season pony"?
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Heat soak is an issue, as it is with ANY boosted vehicle. My intercooled Turbo T-Type has it, ZL1s have it, SVO Mustangs have it, T-Bird Super Coupes have it, Callaway Corvettes had it, Lightnings have it, Cobra stangs have it...and Shelbys have it. As a matter of fact, heat soak is common in all IC engines. Why else would you ice the intake, even in the Jr. Stock era? Remember "cool cans" for fuel lines? So saying the Camaro ZL1 has heat soak is simply confirming the obvious, Bob. Nothing new, here, folks...
In that regard,
EVERYTHING could be called a "3-season" vehicle, when observing 1/4-mile and/or street performance...
As an aside, when the ZL1 video was made, the ambient temp in early May was
well less than 75 degrees...somewhat better than the conditions recently encountered by
tnspeed when he clocked his 1.85 60', on perhaps a track not as well prepped. Someone from the Ford camp, who claimed to be there that day, said he walked out of his shoes on
that track... Or was that another attempt to discredit
anything the Camaros did that day?
Bob, you've raced for a long time, with distinction. I am confident you have seen, from time to time, runs made that surprized/astonished even you...but they
DID happen. Didn't they?