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Smokes35 · 06-09-2009, 09:38 AM

I really dont think the problem has anything to do with build quality or reliability. I really think that the american consumer has a problem with product selection...

Lets be honest here. GM and Ford have no problem pumping out Silverados, F-150s, Escalades, Tahoes, Suburbans, Navigators, Expeditions, etc etc etc that buyers run to the market to pick up. I think the real problem is... none of them make a sedan thats worth a damn, looks wise at least.

Leave price out of the equation. whats a better buy right now. a Chevy Malibu or a Volkswagon Jetta/Passat? GM is all over the news and everyones rambling on about how they ran themselves into ground. Volkswagon, on the other hand, as well as BMW are offering .09% financing, and FREE, read that again, FREE maintainence for the 3 years. My ex-girlfriend drove a new malibu, i liked it, i really did, but not until i got behind the wheel of it the first time. My brother drove a jetta for 150,000 worry free, no issue miles and i have to say the fit and finish was superior in the german made car.

GM, Ford, and Chrysler right now have been subjected to play by a completely different set of rules. Instead of groundbreaking design, we're getting groundbreaking gas milage constraints. Theres only 1 way to get a car to 30mpg... its gotta be light, its gotta be efficient, and its got to be way down on power. That doesn't exactly make for a car thats exciting to drive. Some how BMW makes a 3series that runs forever, gets above average gas milage, is reasonably priced, is fun to drive, and holds its value for a significantly longer time than any american car... seems like the american products just don't match up. Once again we're talking bang for buck, not reliability or build quality.

Maybe if any of the american car companies made a car that really turned your head when you saw one, we'd buy it... Until then, there are numerous alternatives that out preform as all around vehicles....

The ford 500 doesn't make panties drop-- and its the same price as a BMW 3series... what would u buy?

06-09-2009, 09:38 AM	#10
Smokes35 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS, 2006 Ram SRT10 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Pittsburgh. PA Posts: 248	I really dont think the problem has anything to do with build quality or reliability. I really think that the american consumer has a problem with product selection... Lets be honest here. GM and Ford have no problem pumping out Silverados, F-150s, Escalades, Tahoes, Suburbans, Navigators, Expeditions, etc etc etc that buyers run to the market to pick up. I think the real problem is... none of them make a sedan thats worth a damn, looks wise at least. Leave price out of the equation. whats a better buy right now. a Chevy Malibu or a Volkswagon Jetta/Passat? GM is all over the news and everyones rambling on about how they ran themselves into ground. Volkswagon, on the other hand, as well as BMW are offering .09% financing, and FREE, read that again, FREE maintainence for the 3 years. My ex-girlfriend drove a new malibu, i liked it, i really did, but not until i got behind the wheel of it the first time. My brother drove a jetta for 150,000 worry free, no issue miles and i have to say the fit and finish was superior in the german made car. GM, Ford, and Chrysler right now have been subjected to play by a completely different set of rules. Instead of groundbreaking design, we're getting groundbreaking gas milage constraints. Theres only 1 way to get a car to 30mpg... its gotta be light, its gotta be efficient, and its got to be way down on power. That doesn't exactly make for a car thats exciting to drive. Some how BMW makes a 3series that runs forever, gets above average gas milage, is reasonably priced, is fun to drive, and holds its value for a significantly longer time than any american car... seems like the american products just don't match up. Once again we're talking bang for buck, not reliability or build quality. Maybe if any of the american car companies made a car that really turned your head when you saw one, we'd buy it... Until then, there are numerous alternatives that out preform as all around vehicles.... The ford 500 doesn't make panties drop-- and its the same price as a BMW 3series... what would u buy? __________________ NKMB8X 1100 = Preliminary Order: 5/29/2009 3000 = Accepted By Production Control: 6/17/2009 3300 = Scheduled For Production: 6/22/2009 3400 = 7/20 TPW as of 7/18/2009 3800 = Built!!! 7/27/2009 VIN 2G1FT1EW3A9129998 6000 = 8/4/2009 Giggity!