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Old 12-24-2012, 12:34 PM   #1033
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Originally Posted by davidcroft View Post
to quote OldSchoolCamaro from another thread

"...well, in my humble opinion all I can say is that the LS1 was a game changer for the Camaro and it rocked solid and beat the Pony solidly until the demise of the F body did it not? I know it did because I owned one and it was a stout performer and walked a Mustang. The Mustang evolved continuosly while we went on hiatus. The funny thing is that they tried and failed with IRS. Funny thing for us is we sat, watched, and waited <hoped and prayed actually> that the Camaro would come back. Fast forward. We are a generation ahead on major structural platform and suspension engineering and they lead in motor output. And the really, really hard part to the equation is a body and chasis that transfers energy to the pavement efficiently without instability...and that is where GM rules. So, in large, at this point, we are well ahead of the competition, except for that all important HP equals coin factor. "

We are ahead of the Mustang...structurally and putting power to the ground. Ford has stretched the Modular motors to it's absolute peak displacement with the 5.8L. I honestly don't hear anything coming from their development team regarding DI V-8s. They keep trying to sell everyone on eco-boost.Hey everybody...hop on the eco-boost wagon...it'll be fun, we promise.

Their turbos in the trucks are sh*tting themselves just out of powertrain warranty!
The bang for the buck factor is what made the 4th gens legendary....despite their many gremlins. That is why IMO its discouraging to hear that the 5th gens are behind the mustangs in acceleration; Don't count out the mustang in the handling as well....they're not shabby.

I agree that, technology wise, the camaro (and the ls motors) are ahead of its competition, but the combination of weight and deficit of power (zl1) masks that advantage in when compared with ford.

I just don't see how an ls7 (by itself in its existing tune) will put the current camaro ahead, or in striking range, of the GT500; Now....being the nostalgia bug that I am....a 427 big block.....I'd forgive the weight issue with the camaro if that miracle happens!
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