I knew it.
So anyone that disagrees with your opinion is a GM fanboy, right?
Nice try, bud. I noticed that you still haven't responded to my original post where I addressed where you were coming from. Do you know why you haven't responded to it? Probably b/c you can't. Every point I made is irrefutable.
The Civic is all new for 13, well not really.... They actually made such a cheap POS that was supposed to be all new for '12, but even perpetual advocates Consumer Reports panned Honda for the embarrassment that was the '12 Civic.
You have no idea what it is you're talking about for first off, comparing a Honda Civic or an Accord to a Camaro. It's a totally different market. I understand what you're trying to say, but your facts are off b/c you're saying that Honda puts more crap in a base 16K car than Chevy puts in a base 26K car. Implying a 10K gap. BTW, I'm not sure if you realized how off you were on your numbers, b/c as I mentioned the Civic starts @ $18,100 and the Camaro starts @ $24,200, plus the Camaro has $1,000 rebate so it's really $23,200. One of many facts you are incorrect about. Pointing that out doesn't make me a fanboy, it makes you look silly. It's a five grand difference, not a ten grand difference.
Honda put all that content in the car not b/c they're innovators, but b/c Hyundai/Kia is putting all of that and more in their cars and they're making serious inroads to Hondas customer base. Honda didn't have Satellite radio or aux ipod jacks on the LX before this brand new version of the Civic. Not to mention that you're still comparing the new Civic to a vehicle that's in year 4 of it's product cycle. You can't just put every cool upgrade in a car w/out pricing yourself out of the competitive market.
I'm sorry to be the one to tell you that you are incapable of understanding that you are wrong in every possible way. Chevy hasn't cheaped out on anything. Before the Camaro came back in 2009 as a '10 MY, the segment leader, Ford Mustang had a V8 that barely produced 300 HP (315 HP & 325 Tq) for the V8 GT. Chevrolet put so much content into the "pony car" segment that Ford had to react and change their entire vehicle. (Not to mention 400/426 HP) Ford also were a company that "cheaped out" by not even offering bluetooth or a premium audio up until 2011 MY unless you went to V6 Premium or GT Premium. Chevy were the innovators there, but you pan GM and not Ford? Right, that sounds perfectly sane....
4 years later, you want to compare content on a completely different segment, in a completely new car....? and your point is? What? Just admit you're wrong dude, that would be the classy way out.
As for the knucklehead who said the Spark is 16K and doesn't have bluetooth or USB, he is also flat out wrong. The Spark has more bang for the buck than ANY segment vehicle. The LT starts @ $14,595 has all Power options, Cruise, 10 Air Bags, Bluetooth, USB, 7" Color Touch Screen, Audio Streaming w/ Pandora and Stitcher and coming soon will launch an app to stream Navigation for a one time charge or $50.00.
I'll say that again. FIFTY DOLLARS. Know who else gives you that? NOBODY. Just admit you're wrong, save face and apologize or else forever be known as a forum troll. Unless you just don't care about that....
