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Originally Posted by Road_Warrior85
They had NO CHOICE but have holes in the story.
Movies are not filmed in start to finish order. They do it a little more at random.
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I guess that's why it would be a bit confusing then. I wasn't specifically referring to Shia's broken hand, but if that's really the case for staying in Egypt for so long, then we can blame it on him
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Originally Posted by Road_Warrior85
They didnt hide the action. All those fights were cartoons basically. Drawn on a computer. You can only do just so much that way.
Yes we would all LOVE to see more, but they had a budget in there somewhere and couldnt go on forever drawing.
They had to cut corners somewhere.
Yeah, again, the fights were drawn. When the camera filmed, there was nothing in front of it except actors and explosions. The transformers where then drawn in around it. So dont blame the camera, there was nothing to point a camera at.
same as above, it is easier to draw the transformers close up, than it is to draw every little bit of detail that is going on.
I blame 2 things here:
1. Shia breaking his hand and making them spend extra budget money to work around him.
2. 1080P HD. Now that they have to be soo much more detailed, they have less room to for errors. They have to master every little possible detail for every frame of the movie
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Yeah, I know that's how the Transformers are animated into the movie, but what I meant was that there were more obstructions than I would have liked. For example, the fight scene in the forest. When the fight started the camera was doing a strafing shot behind a row of trees, so you would only catch glimpses of the fight for a while at first. Or the final fight in Egypt between Jetfire-enhanced Optimus Prime (haha
) and The Fallen feat. Megatron. It was like, "Camera, shoot open space, then slowly move behind a few pillars, then move out right when the final execution move is performed." Those probably weren't the directions for the camera crew, but that's what it felt like for a few glorious seconds of fighting. It wouldn't hurt if they could keep the camera pointed at the open space where they would generate the fighting. I know, the "shaky camera" and the "quick glance camera" moves and techniques are used to give off the effect of intensity and realism, but it would be great if they didn't put obstructions in the way.
And it would probably be easier to animate the robots if they didn't have to be close in like macro zoom or something, because they wouldn't have to detail every single moving part, just the limbs and such. Yes, I think it is harder to animate things into a live action environment, but it would be nice (and probably easier on the animators and camera crews) if they could ease up on the close-quarters "Bourne Identity" style camera work and do more wide-angle kind of cinematography. When Optimus transformed out of disguise in the first movie, when he met up with Sam and Mikaela, that was a beautiful example. Not too close, but enough to see the little parts move. To contrast, consider the first scenes in Shanghai where Ironhide went out of disguise. I thought that was too close to see anything.
Now, let me again reiterate that I don't think that those complaints are enough to let down an otherwise enjoyable movie. Whenever a movie is based on something, there will always be people who will be disappointed, because they have their own expectations of how they want the movie to be made. For the Transformers movies, I'm not one of them (yet, maybe) because I didn't watch a lot of Transformers back then to know the storyline and and details. But TF2 is still a good movie for the action and bits of humor throughout.