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Old 04-03-2013, 01:57 PM   #193
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G35, the video of the TT with 8 psi of boost making 450HP...well turbos on an LFX with 8 psi does pretty much the samn damn thing, so not impressed there.

The aftermarket for the Camaro V6, and especially the new LFX is pretty small, so your comparisons to what is proven/reliable really has no real bearings as of yet. I can only think of one V6 that went boom with a turbo, and that was due to a tune which ran the car incredibly lean. Otherwise there has been zero failures.

Modding wise...N/A with a tune, cats, exhaust, and cold air intake your looking at a good 350 - 360 crank HP. So starting from 323, I'd say they respond just as well as anything else out there. The LFX can't have headers like the LLT engine, but it doesn't matter due to the redesigned heads...that + HFCs is basically the same as adding headers + HFCs on the LLT.

With a centrifigal SC, on 7 - 8psi of boost (close to 400rwhp), on stock tires and almost no other mods a 2010 ran a 12.8 quarter mile. Pretty obvious with tires it could do mid to low 12s.

Using turbos, with the much greater low end torque advantage, its obvious that even better times are possible. The G37 video you posted above as you pointed out is AWD which gives it a launch advantage and it runs high 11s. Gretchen ran a mid 12 on his old LLT with turbos running about the same boost (only 445rwhp) on a crappy tune (no good tuning options was why he had to sell that car for the LFX). Pretty obvious here that a good tune for the TT Camaro is pretty equal to the TT G37 when you to take away the AWD advantage for that car.

Now with Gretchens build. he has already proven his car will run mid to low 11s. Its is entirely possible he may even break into the 10s. The G37 is going to need to add a lot more power to do that, which means he will have to go into the 10 - 12 lbs of boost range which again, puts it on equal ground with Gretchens car.

What is my point? That all this talk of the G37 being a better track car than a Camaro V6 is just non-sense, especially when the G37 starts out at the much higher price point. Maybe if your someone that wants the lux, and then wants to mod...thats fine, but thats not what we are about.

I agree with you that the G37 is quicker in N/A form, but we've all known since the very beginning of 5th gen production that its only real performance downfall is weight. Give it similar weight to the mustang and you have a car capable of 13s stock.


Personally, I feel we still haven't really seen the best of what a good modded N/A V6 can do at the track mostly b/c of the tuning options for the LLT. Now that we have IPF for the LLT, and the LFX engines are easier to tune, I hope we can see more diehard N/A V6 guys out there trying to nab us some low 13s in the quarter, but its a pretty rare breed so I'm not sure if we'll see it anytime soon.
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