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Old 11-08-2013, 10:15 AM   #416
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Originally Posted by 90503 View Post
Of all the Mustang guys, where's Norm?
Just a bit late to this party.

Belated thanks to Pete.

Originally Posted by Brettzel View Post
Why hello there. The Spec V wasnt the only 2009 model gtr smart ass. The fastest lap by the first model year was 7:26. Have you ever driven a GTR? You probably call it a robot car because that is what everyone with a slower car says to make themselves feel better
Speaking only for myself, there is the annoying idea of having to give too much credit to the electronics. Maybe I'm greed or old-fashioned about this, but I'd really prefer to extract my cars' performance by virtue of whatever skill level I possess than give most of the credit for a hero lap to a bunch of silicon wafers and bits/bytes of programming.

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN View Post
Too many variables, here, to establish any sort of concrete conclusions, other than this RWD car has laid down a pretty damned admirable time. It's NOT about the time, it's going to be ALL about the driving experience. Driver input. Driver control. Driver reward.
This ↑↑↑ .

Originally Posted by BaylorCamaro View Post
What The Antichrist is to God, is what ThePill is to the Camaro, lol.
Originally Posted by blufin View Post
I have never heard anybody that is as obsessed with Camaro bashing as he is. I'm willing to bet even the Mustang guys are tired of hearing from him.
Ya think??

I can deal with anything that's technically correct or at least defensible. The vitriolic tone and the overstated differences, not so well.

Originally Posted by tramtwo View Post
Yep... them suckers can't even keep up with a lowly 1LE in the turns!
The 1LE does make a good "bogey" for those of us with Mustangs and who favor roads that would rather not stay straight for more than a few hundred feet at a time.

Originally Posted by Denis View Post
temp is probably a big one. although im not sure how hot it gets out there.
You should expect temperature to be at least as important a factor with R-compounds as with the G:2 Goodyears that are found on the ZL1 and 1LE.

Originally Posted by NVmyZL1 View Post
So let me get this right. A respected member, or members, of Camaro5 are over on a Mustang site with the sole purpose of defending the Camaro? Isn't that the kind of thing that so many on this site complain about the Mustang guys doing over here? Seems very hypocritical to me.
As a car enthusiast first, some (maybe a lot) of that Assault thread is an assault on enthusiasts as much as it is against the specific car.

Originally Posted by ThaCamaroKid View Post
I did not say I was not happy with the car being released I'm ecstatic, but I am unhappy they decided to release a lap time that does not represent the cars full potential
The more I think about this, the better I like it that conditions were not ideal. Leaves a little mystery.

Originally Posted by BlackinBlack View Post
EDIT My guess is the 1LE would be a solid low 8 minute car at The Ring. Best run I would say the car might dip below 8 minutes but just barely.
About what I'd guess. Think maybe I did a few months ago.

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