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Old 01-07-2014, 07:28 AM   #740
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Originally Posted by backtotintops View Post
I had several run ins with johnny law and even some mean ones in upstate NY…they knew we were heading to the glen and never mentioned anything about the race mods…plates checked, reggy and insurance checked and fat ticket for speeding to me. Sparco removable wheel and no airbag. Is this a Nevada thing or maybe I'm totally wrong about NY and they just don't enforce it??? Do you have a DMV link citing this for Nevada or NY?

Yes one would be dumb not to install the thick closed cell roll bar padding on any bar even close to your body. A good prepped car would have this everywhere. It's actually softer for impact than any surface in a stock vehicle.

I removed the driver's side and the passenger's was defeated by a key. Link please regarding the legality of removal of airbags on your own car?

knowledge regarding a roll cage in a street car and racing in general is all about calculated risk vs reward in my opinion. I loved driving those cars everywhere…that was my reward…and the risks I took on and off the track were well beyond worrying about supposed "street legality".

Still I would like to know the truth so any links appreciated.
Sounds like we've had some similar experiences
Airbag requirements and cage (il)legality are Federal (therefore cover all states) and administered by DOT/NHTSA. In addition to that, if a driver ever filed an insurance claim (street crash) involving a full cage car and/or with disabled air bags, they have really opened a can of worms (call your insurance agent and ask). I would urge anyone considering installing a full cage or disabling their airbags in a street legal/driven car to have a discussion with their local Law Enforcement/DMV and insurance company and form their own decision as to whether it's something they still want to do. The consequences could be life changing and not in a positive way

My original intention of discussing this, gone somewhat astray :-) was to point out the difference between a race car such as a BOSS 302S/R (subject to some sort of classifications from a specific race sanctioning body) and a street-legal, street driven track oriented car (the Z/28) to which the red herring "not sanctioned" BS has been applied. OE manufacturers cannot by law sell street legal cars without airbags or with full cages. Ergo, a car without a cage cannot be door-to-door raced and is not a race car (it can be time-trialed or HPDE'd).

Adding another point to the mix- race cars are generally required to use a halo-seat which controls the lateral movement of the head in a crash, helping to avoid head/neck injuries during lateral impacts. Halo seats are highly restrictive of side vision and are also not federally street legal. Another fact that reinforces that the Z/28 is not a "race" car.
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