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Old 01-09-2014, 12:29 PM   #898
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Originally Posted by TrackClub View Post
I understand the amortization game. Yet the key parts are "bolt ons" not brand new components requiring tons of r+d, design, enngineering and testing. Case in point: the z06 engine, 3rd party suspension, 3rd party brakes, etc. Indeed it has to be tested as a package, but it is not even close to say developing a new motor. I don't dispute that the z28 has a lot of new (to Camaro) parts, but they are not necessarily "new".
I think it is misleading to suggest the car's price is high because of "testing". It is high because it is a limited production car with a limited target clientele. At this level it wouldn't matter if it cost 85Gs. I am sure GM would find 1000-1500 folks with fat wallets.
Also, I have no respect for any product manager who is known by a quote: "they didn't ask me to make it cheap..they asked me to make it fast". Catchy quote? Yes, but it smacks of lack of respect for the working people. How different would would this quote sound if "cheap" got replaced with "affordable for loyal customers"?!
Having a substantial career in product development in the transportation industry I can assure you that you are grossly underestimating what it takes to take an existing part and put it on a new car.

Everyone thinks, oh the new suspension already exists. Well no, this is the first application in the industry and also in a Camaro.

And taking an existing engine? Do you know how long it tales to calibrate an existing power train in a new application?

As Fbodfather said 40% of the parts are new and new parts requir tools and just for grins google PPAP and see what it takes to qualify a new part from a supplier.

The work GM has to do is farrrrr more than what you guys see in the aftermarket.
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