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The dealer may be "forced" to buy him a new car. Not because he or anyone thinks he is "entitled" to it, but because it is the right thing to do. No laws will be broken or written when he gets it, and Western Civilization will not come to an end. Your hang up seems to be on this view that we have become a nation of "takers". No one is arguing from that perspective - it's a pet peeve of yours that you have read into people's responses. We call that "eisegesis": "the process of interpreting a text or portion of text in such a way that it introduces one's own presuppositions, agendas, or biases into and onto the text."
That is your opinion. Most people disagree with it, but not because of the reasons you attribute to them. Mr. Hooper has every right to say what will make him "whole" or not. We have every right to express our opinion on that as well. He has never said, "I want a new 2014." Nor have I.
Now your bias truly shows. He's "blasting" the dealer? I think we've done plenty of that, and rightly so, but he has been remarkably restrained. and you think he's the bad guy? Yeah yeah yeah, you qualify it, but the above words are yours and show your true colors.
Poor poor dealer!
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Why do you make this personal? Are you at risk of losing your career and freedom because of one *unfounded* accusation? Can you imagine the "risk management" steps I have had to take for 20 years to prevent that? Being a nice guy and doing the right thing isn't enough. It's something I have to be scrupulous about *every day*. Not to mention that I have to carry one million in personal liability because they see me and look past me to the deep pockets they imagine are behind me. And never mind the more important matter, that I've got to protect the 1500+ kids in our Sunday School from the predators that are out there. It's a responsibility I take dead serious and you dismiss it as "easy enough"? "Someone elses money and risk?" The gall!
All the dealer had to do was take a few common sense precautions and not be a dick, then none of this would have come his way. 
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Well then you have not read this thread. People have ABSOLUTELY said the this dealer OWES the OP and BRAND NEW 2014 ZL1.
How can you not see that?
It is to those posts I speak. YES, that is entitlement mentality. The car was 2 years old and had 10k miles on it.
I have only said that the dealers liability is not for a brand new car and you argue. I don't see it as a stretch that you think he does. Why else would this bother you?
Remarkably restrained? His lawyer told him to be quiet. Remarkably restrained would be the dealer here. Duh..... He was quite vocal til a lawyer told him not to be.
Don't create a false attack from me. Someone elses money and risk was clearly made toward your project with the jet building. Nobody is attacking your ministry. Sheesh.
.... I said already that my ONLY point in that was made. I did not ask you to pull out your measuring stick. It was a hypothetical.
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If you think you can prevent these things from happening all together then you've never owned a real business. Not for any amount of time anyway.
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So you HAVE and so point was made with your detailed confirmation. You do in fact realize you can't prevent everything. Not sure why the need for your Resume.
Go back and read the OP. He accused the dealer of speaking with his attorneys before calling about his car. The accident happens Sunday. They were called first thing the next day as soon as business was open. And that's because they made sure they talked to their attorneys? So this guy is already making assumptions and posting as such to create a picture. I'd bet that being Sunday afternoon by the time they got it cleaned up and back to the dealer with the owner notified and all it was Sunday evening and time to put it to bed til first thing the business day. You think they called their LAWYER Sunday afternoon? Or at 7am Monday morning? I doubt it. Insurance? Maybe.
And yes it was the OP that brought up the new ZL1. In the OP. THAT is what he wanted from the beginning. Does he deserve it? Not for us to say. But a 2 year old car with 10k miles on it is quite a bit less than a brand new one. No matter how it's been taken care of.
But that is exactly what people are vilifying this dealership for. Not immediately buying this guy a new car. Go back and read.
I said all along the dealer is responsible and owes this guy a comparable car or the value to be whole.
Curious though. Why are you and so many assuming the dealership is so evil here? Are you privy to the inside information?