06-15-2008, 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by jsenn
I completely agree. I really don't see general motors selling a car that will run with a corvette that costs anywhere from $46,000-$70,000 for $30,000. it just wouldn't make sense. Even an Impala SS with the 5.3L smal block V8 that has 303 hp costs upwards of $29,000. how can they logically sell a vehicle that is
1: better looking and? just means it'll sell more! all their cars are looking better!
2:Brand new ...everyones cars are brand new...as the rest of GM's cars too...
3:hyped beyond belief ...the others are hyped too. We just don't read about them daily and aren't on their forums. Trust me...Ford guys LOVE their Mustangs...etc, etc, etc,
4:400+ hp with a much larger, more expensive engine ...the LS1 and LS3 are almost identical in cost. I don't know how you get "much larger" out of 346 cubic inches to 376 cubic inches. 5.7 vs 6.2. That's not much larger. 346 to 454 would be much larger IMO...
5:has bigger wheels and tires ...we don't even know the sizes yet. And, 20's won't be that much more expensive...not like it's going to add an extra grand on the price of the car.
6:has a more costly suspension and transmission ...can't comment on this because I don't have figures on the cost of the previous 4th Gen vs. current suspension and transmissions. Do you konw the costs? I'm curious.
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7:has more technology ...more technology that has already been around for years now...OnStar is not something "new" that GM made specifically for this car. Homelink has been around for YEARS. HUD? If we get one? Already been made. Digital displays? the majority of the technology is already there....just need to size the display to fit the area you need and to program the module. IRS? Already been implemented on the Zeta architecture. "Pedders" is already claiming to have all the specs (for 10 months now?) for the IRS on the Camaro. They said it was basically the same set up as another car.
Everything in this car is new....in a design sense. I'd guess that 85% of the technology that is going into this car has already been researched, tested, and approved. They don't need a team to develop OnStar for this Camaro. Just toss it in... Yes, it has more technology, but the technology is already there.
for the same money? Not to rain on anyones parade or anything, it just doesn't make sense. I for one wouldn't be surprised to see a price tag of damn near $40K for the SS.
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As  fully as I can, I call
The Camaro itself will FLOP if the V8 doesn't come in close to the Mustang. Why? Because I won't be buying a 35K to 40K base V8. But, who am I, right? I'll tell ya....I'm the same guy just like thousands of others who want this Camaro in the V8 trim and are in my financial position. That's pretty much how it's always been for me. I'm telling you....all ^ does NOT matter. I don't want a V6. I want a V8. I'm not the only one. GM needs to hit the market segment that buyers of my category fall in.
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Originally Posted by TheMadHatter99
GM has repeatedly stated their desire to price the Camaro closely to the current Mustang (with the exception of a possible "premium"). . Ergo, we're looking for the base V8 w/o options to come in just shy of $30k The supercharged version will obviously be a fair amount higher than that, possibly around $40k depending on options and other upgrades.
Thank you!:word:
This is all MSRP though, we've no idea what gouging dealers will be able to get due to the car's notoriety, initial scarcity, and probable popularity.
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So many have said MSRP. You WILL be able to find plenty of dealers who won't be marking them up. GM will be working triple time getting all these out. Just watch...
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Originally Posted by Dragoneye
Every time I read one of these, it makes me that much more anxious for the unveil to finally seperate the rumors from truth.
Jsenn, none of that matters. Absolutely none of it. (don't read that or the following nastily; I don't mean it that way  )
The only thing that matters is that it competes in the marketplace against Mustangs and Challengers. HOW they do it, is completely up to GM. If that means opting for an LS3 over an L76 and hiding the minor cost differences somewhere, who are we to question?  It won't undercut the competitors in cost, certainly not (so I guess all the goodies do have a tiny impact...); but it's not going to be priced like a Corvette (that's what it sounds like you're suggesting). I can't make sense of that.
Beyond that, not all vehicles are created equal. If they were...explain why I can't get a base '08 CTS for the same as a V6 G8? ....With the Impala, it's primary function isn't a performance vehicle, so why price it that way?
Don't count on it......but it won't be too much higher...
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