[Mr CLuTcH]

Oh, my god, WOW. You guys have some great responses, especially joelster/Kamaro; very informative. At least now, I know what I have to do to get the gains I want(450hp). And thanks for explaining what "at the crank" means. But yea, I have alot of guys with chargers with LOUD exhuast on it wanting to race and they kinda just laugh at the new camaros; I wanna race them. I guess they're foolish to laugh, but they're really dodge fans at the heart; wont give chevy credit for the camaro even if it's outright beating they're cars in speed and power.

But in November when I get my 1SS Camaro auto, Im gonna start upgrading. Just a lil saving here and there and Ill be there before you know it. I want a new exhuast, new cold air intake, and to finish it off, new headers, I want the long tube headers by "Hennesy", they're proved at having gains of 50HP with a tune, 30hp stock without a tune. So that's really what I'm trying to get first. But after that, Im going to stop upgrading. I just want a very fast, nice car, I mean Im not trying to beat a corvette in a race,...although it would add something to my ego, but take a whole lot from my wallet.

Thanks all.