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Originally Posted by Van

I will. Not because they make me feel better, but because they're factual pieces of information using the same driver on both vehicles. I did research from a number of magazine test drives as well as edmunds, msn, etc and they're all right about there.

Fortunately I realized YEARS ago that people who test drive minivans for a living are often the worst source for performance figures. I remember the magazines running 14s in LS1 powered F-bodys, 13s in 2003 ~ 2004 Mustang Cobras, and high 13s in LS1 powered C5 Corvettes. These numbers are all way off from what the cars will actually do on a track with a good driver behind the wheel. A C6 LS2 is every bit of a low 12 second car with everything perfect... if you can't get a mid 12 out of it you really need practice and a bit of humbling (especially if you are one of the people that cranks off a 'poor' time and thinks it's a great one [KRUGER AND DUNNING ]).

Testing methods change year after year as well... so comparing an older pass in the same magazine isn't always an apples to apples comparison. I do understand where you are coming from.. I am just trying to point out why I would never rely on that method.

Now if you're implying that those numbers are off, they could be. Some drivers are better than others, but those are pretty spot on give or take a tenth of a second or two.

I am used to see really great drivers make passes and as mentioned above year to year magazine tests cannot always be compared. Track passes however will remain comparable year after year until something changes in the way the equipment works. Comparing magazine test numbers to a real dragstrip is impossible which is another equalizer for me... the only Magazine numbers I care about are those done on an actual dragstrip for that reason.

Wasn't trying to piss in your cheerios.. hopefully that cleared it up for you a bit?