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Originally Posted by trademaster
Where were they caught lying?
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I guess, in your haste to misdirect this thread by accusing GM of a specific issue that ISN'T an issue, you missed this previous post (or blindly ignored it...):
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Originally Posted by LOWDOWN
Here is, SPECIFICALLY, what THEY "said":
2.3L EcoBoost FRPP Modifications: 12.56 secs
- Performance Rear Subframe Kit
- Heavy Duty Half-Shaft Kit
- Draft Shaft Safety Loops
-Prototype Off-Road Exhaust
-Ford Racing Development Engine Calibration
- Hoosier Drag Racing Slicks (Rear)
- Weld-Racing AlumaStar Drag Wheels (Rear)
- Recaro Race Seat
...and here is, at a glance, what they left out (pun intended):
- Stripped Interior
- Exhaust-Delete ("Prototype Off-Road Exhaust", indeed!)
- Weld AlumaStar Racing Wheels - Front
What's the Curb Weight of that car NOW? 3,400? 3,350? LESS?
And, if they left these " minor details" out, what ELSE was added-changed-deleted? God knows... |
As anyone who has spent a moment prepping and racing KNOWS, reduced weight has the same impact as increased power. Drag racing: it's accepted theory that
100 lb = 1/10...
FRPP's stated objectives were to be the first to put an EB in the 12s, a GT in the 11s, and their super-GT in the 10s, as per video. Agreed? And they apparently accomplished those goals.
I do NOT question those results...
I DO, however, take extreme issue with their methods...and
WHAT THEY STATE AS THEIR LIST OF MODIFICATIONS, in total.
The "missing" cat-back factory exhaust, in ALL cases, is a significant weight-saver. So too are all the items changed and deleted INSIDE the car. On balance, SOME of that weight was added back by the glorified HardBar...but not nearly as much as they stripped from the interior. A chromoly "tall" HardBar (for belt attachment and some roll-over protection) weighs well under 100 lb., and is waaay beyond necessary in a 12-second car.
Then , there's the problem of "mods"....and where they end. Or do they? "Nope, that's ALL we did..." REALLY?! You forgot to mention the above interior-exhaust mods performed on ANY car. And the front AlumaStars...
Let's look at the results:
"EB in the 12s" - if they'd left the exhaust and interior alone, and forgot the HardBar, they likely would have STILL run 12's...so why didn't they? Only they can 'splain
that one...they MUST have needed those FOUR AlumaStars, after all...
"GT in the 11s" - here's where things get a little delicate. Factory interior and exhaust weight MAY have cost them that number... Remember, 100 lb. = 1/10. Pretty close, here...and NO track requires a roll bar in an upper-11s car!
"Super-GT in the 10s" - here, you NEED a roll bar. Check. But, if you add back in the weight of the missing interior and full exhaust, they likely would NOT have "run the number"...
a number that's significant to match-beat the HELLCAT's equally cloudy P.R. TIT might
NOT have matched TAT...you know, that "10.80s on DRs"...
Taking a showroom-fresh new car and performing the total mods FRPP did will be matched by almost NO ONE. So, "
your results WILL vary...w-I-d-e-l-y"
But hey, they "ran the numbers"! Good for them...
Modding vehicles and passing 'em off as "
bone stock" (their quote) ALWAYS ends with more QUESTIONS than answers...EVERY TIME! Sanctioning bodies call that
CHEATING. We'll simply call it what it is...
LYING.